Spydeco Back Lock vs. BM Axis Lock

Chopping...with a folder...

I think you should definitely buy the Griptillian. That way, when it breaks you'll be blaming Benchmade instead of Spyderco.
 
My Military, UKPK and others have chopped just fine for their size / weight?
 
yablanowitz said:
Chopping...with a folder...
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The Rajah would be a good chopping folder(it's what it was built for).
The Buck 882 or 887 does a good chopping job too.
For regular use, the Endura fits the pocket nicer, and the full length liners are more to my taste than the full-size Griptilian.
The Mini-Griptilian is very nice for a smaller knife though.
 
J.B said:
In fact the interior minister of the federal city state Berlin, Germany wanted to modify our weapons law in order to restrict knife carry to butter knife blades, no kidding. It´s too late at night right now. Otherwise I perhaps could find a link to the blade shapes he wanted to enforce. Thank God he wasn´t successful yet.

JB
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Maybe they ought to do what the Japanese did when they conquered Okinawa in the 1600s. Confiscate everyone's knives, and take one knife and chain it to a table in the middle of town, post a guard, and make everyone in town use that one knife for all their cooking, etc.
 
shangchi108 said:
Maybe they ought to do what the Japanese did when they conquered Okinawa in the 1600s. Confiscate everyone's knives, and take one knife and chain it to a table in the middle of town, post a guard, and make everyone in town use that one knife for all their cooking, etc.
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Shangchi, wow, I didn´t know that and I assume Ehrhart Koerting (the interior minister) would love it. In Germany up to now it seems they´ve only changed the weapons law to show that they do something (against violent crimes). Only one party stood up and said it would be ineffective. Guess which party will get my vote again. But let´s not hijack the thread.

Jake Bauer said:
I wont be chopping with it every time I use it. But if I need too, and don't happen to have a fixed blade on me, then I want to know that it will do a good job.
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Jake, basically I would say, take a fixed blade with a non stainless carbon steel for chopping like 1055 or SR-77 (modified S-7 tool steel). But I understand your point. As first folder for chopping the Cold Steel Pocket Bushman comes across my mind. It´s pretty tough and inexspensive, yet not very comfortable. Again interesting for Germany is, one can remove its thumb studs. From the Spyderco line I would choose a folder with stop pin, like Military, Khukri, Barong or Paramilitary. The Paramili PE S30V was my second EDC folder as long it was legal. It´s really tough for its weight and highly reliable.

JB
 
Jake, what type of chopping are you talking about, specifically? I had mentioned chopping with some of my knives. It was mostly into maple and other NE U.S. woods. For example when I was building a shelter with some friends I used my BG42 Military to hack away at the small branches (1 inch diameter and less) of a log we used for a post, to clean it up and get those little branches out of the way. I've also chopped with the UKPK using full arm swings into plywood to test how much the reprofiled edge could take and it did fine. You can see a video of some of this here. I've done similar things with my ZDP Endura which I converted into a scandi grind. It held up fine. I've also used it and the Military like a machete to clear out vegetation from trails and camp sites.

I tend to use swings at the elbow when chopping with folders rather than full powered swings to compensate for their weaker construction, and so far I've used everything from Opinels to a Manix without any issues. I think folders are a bit under rated as far as durability / toughness goes. For example most people here would never consider batoning with an Opinel...
 
I guess it's all about technique, and since most people don't have the right technique when it comes to batoning with folders, most manufacturers don't warranty their knives for such use.
 
I chop a lot of branches about the same size you hacked at with your Military Vivi, and I find myself chopping roots a lot to clear a campsite. Don't think I'll be doing much Batoning. I'll let the KA BARs do that.

BTW, I took my P/S Endura 4 out into the woods near the Arkansas river today and did a little field testing. Didn't chop, but I sliced through some twigs and carved my initials into a picnic table haha. The edge stayed true (ran it on the croc sticks a couple weeks ago), but there was some noticeable vertical blade play, but I've heard its not a problem. I jammed the tip into the table and went back and forth, side to side, and while there was vert. blade play, there was absolutely no side to side.
 
yablanowitz said:
Define hard use. I put my slipjoints to what I call hard use - heavy utility cutting and scraping on hard, abrasive materials. I use a liner lock Military for drywall work - hard enough use to dull S90V in a few hours. If you are using it correctly, lock strength doesn't even come into play. If lock strength is vital in your use, you should consider a fixed blade, because all folding knives fold. A lock just makes it a little harder to do.
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yeah lets all go back to slipjoints lol................

not all folks can carry a FB, or want to.

to answer the question between lock backs and axis locks, both are good but i would prefer the axis by a small margin, they self adjust for wear and seem to hold up very well, not that lock backs dont, but i still would prefer the axis.

really, not many lock backs grab me anymore, now its all axis, compression, frame or even liner for me,
 
Both the BM Axis and the Spyderco lock back are stronger than you will ever need. This is a none issue. Akin to who would win a fight Superman or Batman. Fun to discuss the advantages of each but in the end it is just an exercise in opinions.
 
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