Spyderco Balisongs

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redneckone

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Check out a post on the balisong forum titled "Spyderco". Very interesting information. Looks like Spyderco is out of the bali business.
 
Spyderco also agreed not to import, transport, distribute, manufacture, sell, introduce, or attempt to introduce into interstate commerce knives defined as switchblades under the Switchblade Knife Act, in violation of the law.


Does that mean they can still make/sell them if they are legal? Kind of confusing right there... this sucks a lot, too... Wonder what will happen to the Bi-Fold and the automatics...
 
I have two NIB Spyderflys with VG-10 blades. Might keep one and sell one. I was looking forward to the Minifly.
 
_habit_ said:
Spyderco also agreed not to import, transport, distribute, manufacture, sell, introduce, or attempt to introduce into interstate commerce knives defined as switchblades under the Switchblade Knife Act, in violation of the law.


Does that mean they can still make/sell them if they are legal? Kind of confusing right there... this sucks a lot, too... Wonder what will happen to the Bi-Fold and the automatics...
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It's a bit baffling, but indeed that's what the law says. You can make balisongs and mail them all you want within the USA, but you can't import them into the USA. Under this US Customs law, a balisong is considered a switchblade. The bassackwards part is that under the federal switchblade law, a balisong isn't a switchblade.:rolleyes: But since it was an illegally imported item, even though it otherwise would have been a legal item, it's still contraband and always will be. The same goes for every CCC piece of crap you see being sold by countless internet dealers (and the stores at the mall here).
 
I tried to read some of it and it is way over my head and or to stupid for me to understand.Best I can figure its something like the reason Glock can not import their .380.
I do know that all TN law says about a Bali is this "a butterfly knife shall not be considered a switchblade"
I have had one up for trade for about a week but I think I will pull it or a least the trade value just went way up.
 
The law is the law, but this one sure doesn't make any sense to me. The infinitely small percentage of people that can actually cycle a bali with any sort of speed makes what the Feds are doing to Spyderco pointless. :confused:

Even if you fall into the small minority of folks that are good with a Bali, I really sort of doubt that you could beat somebody to the draw that had one of today's "assisted open" knives (you pick the brand). This is especially true with the Spyderco models, due to the extra initial step required to unlock the knife from the closed position.

Thumbs down on what the Feds are doing with this one. :thumbdn:
 
The knife laws are out of date but I would hate for them to start digging to make them modern.If they did that we would all have to start carrying Case Peanuts.
 
In case you all haven't figured it out as yet, the laws banning switchblades and then the Eastern Martial Arts weapons such as Nunchaku, throwing stars, and, yes, bali-songs are the result of portrayals of these items in the media. The switchblades were made illegal after the film "Blackboard Jungle" and a whole slew of Teen Exploitation films that came out in the 1950s showed "juvenile delinquents" using them to terrorize helpless citizens. The result was their being banned in many states and then outlawed on a federal level. The karate and kung-fu exploitation flicks of the 1970s and 1980s led to the banning of the Eastern Martial Arts weaponry and the inclusion of bali-songs in with gravity knives and switchblades.

None of these laws actually have done anything to stop crime as far as I can see, they just made Mr. and Mrs. Taxpayer/Voter feel better. It is all political theater. Now they are after the Assisted Openers and, if they get their way, so too the one-hand openers.
 
Razzierb said:
Even if you fall into the small minority of folks that are good with a Bali, I really sort of doubt that you could beat somebody to the draw that had one of today's "assisted open" knives (you pick the brand). This is especially true with the Spyderco models, due to the extra initial step required to unlock the knife from the closed position.
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Given the perfect setup, I could beat an assisted opener.

BUT...

It needs to be latchless Bali in a breakaway sheath(not sure what the real term is, but that's what I call it) at the proper angle.

Otherwise, I don't have a chance.:p
 
smcfalls13 said:
Given the perfect setup, I could beat an assisted opener.

BUT...

It needs to be latchless Bali in a breakaway sheath(not sure what the real term is, but that's what I call it) at the proper angle.

Otherwise, I don't have a chance.:p
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What about a Waved Endura? :D
 
CuriousOne said:
What about a Waved Endura? :D
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I find waved is the fastest draw of all openers. There is no way I could beat a waved or just thumbable pocket knife with a butterfly.

<repeat all the above stated reasons how stupid the federal switchblade act is>

Phil
 
As the pistol expert, Col. Charles Askins, once noted, it isn't the fastest draw but the best and coolest shot that wins the gunfight. That statement was backed up by a lifetime of service in some very dangerous places and I have heard it supported many times by other people who have had experiences of a similar nature. So I must wonder at this overweening desire to be the fastest on the draw with a foding knife. You all seem to be concerned with that above all other considerations.
 
FullerH said:
You all seem to be concerned with that above all other considerations.
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Bali flipping is a sport. Therefore we like to pride ourselves on speed, technique, creativity, etc.

At least that's how I see it. I have no delusions about being able to pull a Bali in a SD situation and NOT drop it:p Mine are just just equipment for a sport I enjoy.
 
phil000 said:
I find waved is the fastest draw of all openers. There is no way I could beat a waved or just thumbable pocket knife with a butterfly.

<repeat all the above stated reasons how stupid the federal switchblade act is>

Phil
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OK, I'll accept what you all are saying about this not being a tactical thread but you need to explain the quoted post, which is what triggered my response.
 
FullerH said:
phil000 said:
I find waved is the fastest draw of all openers. There is no way I could beat a waved or just thumbable pocket knife with a butterfly.

<repeat all the above stated reasons how stupid the federal switchblade act is>

Phil
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OK, I'll accept what you all are saying about this not being a tactical thread but you need to explain the quoted post, which is what triggered my response.
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Still think you have mis-read the quote. What you quoted is only talking about the speed at which the blade is opened from the pocket.

Honest mistake, but we'll have to wait to hear Phil's answer. My appologies in advance if I'm wrong....
 
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