spyderco captain?

mytowrig said:
motivator: thanks for that! i'm getting closer and closer everyday... i'll have to see at the end of the month what i feel i should do... its at the top of my list! (well that, and another cricket. i love those little buggers!)
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At your service! In fact, did some cardboard box slicing earlier this morning and the recurve blade really does grip the cutting surface wonderfully. I've found this not only applies to box cutting, but other uses as well. For example, when I slice apples or peel oranges, I'm able to maintain constant and consistent edge contact with the object being cut. And lest I forget and go back to mentioning that buttery-silky-smooth liner lock opening....mmmm mmmm mmmm..... :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

Tell me about the Cricket. The smallest Spyderco I've had experience with has been the Dragonfly (which I wish came with a steel clip instead of zytel).
 
mytowrig said:
motivator: thanks for that! i'm getting closer and closer everyday... i'll have to see at the end of the month what i feel i should do... its at the top of my list! (well that, and another cricket. i love those little buggers!)
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You're welcome. :D :thumbup:
 
enderwiggin said:
Designers make claims all the time, that doesn't make them true despite empirical evidence.
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Is this just a general statement, or are you suggesting that there's empirical evidence that the Captain was designed based on aesthetic appeal? If there is evidence, I'd like to know what specifically you're referring to.

Could that have been the case? Sure. What I'm interested in finding out is how someone knows for sure that it is the case.
 
Absintheur said:
As I said it is a very capable knife but the blade was also designed to be pleasing to the eye. There isn't anything you can do with this you couldn't do with an American Tanto blade or even one of Razels. To many tho this blade has more graceful lines and I agree, if it was straight and angular it would look like 100s of others out there and would not be nearly as appealing to me.
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You obviously haven't read much about the reasons for the Captain's unusual blade design. Have you read any of Jason Breenden's (the designer) posts, here or elsewhere?

I would just love to see you quickly and efficiently sever rope or line, with a pull-cut, with an "American Tanto blade or one of the Razels!" Does the addition of hawkbill to the Captain's blade, and its intended function, totally escape you? Let's see how well you can use "an American Tanto blade or Razel" for skinning, too! Does the reason for the curvature of the Captain's tip also escape you?:rolleyes:

Regards,
3G
 
motivator: the crickets are great! i have serrated and plain. the tips are amazing for delicate work and very sharp out of the box. the blade design also likes to "grip" what you are cutting, as you say the captain's does. the liner lock is very strong and the opening action is very smooth. the total thickness and size is very convenient. i clip mine to the inside of my pocket and i can still have full use of my pocket as if its not there, with enough room for my phone, keys, hand, or all of the above. yet the ~2" blade is completely functional. just the other day i was using my serrated one to saw through some 3/4" branches that needed to be gone. fairly comfy even doing that!
 
mytowrig said:
motivator: the crickets are great! i have serrated and plain. the tips are amazing for delicate work and very sharp out of the box. the blade design also likes to "grip" what you are cutting, as you say the captain's does. the liner lock is very strong and the opening action is very smooth. the total thickness and size is very convenient. i clip mine to the inside of my pocket and i can still have full use of my pocket as if its not there, with enough room for my phone, keys, hand, or all of the above. yet the ~2" blade is completely functional. just the other day i was using my serrated one to saw through some 3/4" branches that needed to be gone. fairly comfy even doing that!
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mytowrig: thank you very much. In regards to size, are they similar to the new Boker Subcoms designed by Chad Los Banos?
 
The Motivator said:
mytowrig: thank you very much. In regards to size, are they similar to the new Boker Subcoms designed by Chad Los Banos?
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here's some size comparisons of the Cricket with the Bokerplus SubcomF, Hyper and waved Delica4... the SS Crickets have a Chris Reeve's style integral framelock ;)

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Note to self... Never say anything that can be construed as negative about any Spyderco knife on the board, even if you own and love other Spyderco knives. Do not share preferences when asked by other posters. :eek:
 
enderwiggin said:
Note to self... Never say anything that can be construed as negative about any Spyderco knife on the board, even if you own and love other Spyderco knives. Do not share preferences when asked by other posters. :eek:
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I don't care if someone says something negative about Spyderco. What makes you so certain that I wouldn't have asked the same question if it was under the same circumstances in regards to a Cold Steel design?

I personally have a bad taste in my mouth from Spyderco fans on the Spyderco forums who quickly go on the defensive anytime something is discussed outside of the norm. So I'm the last one to do any fanboy defensive tactics in the name of a company.

And FWIW, my last post was an honest question.
 
Kaizen1 said:
Is this just a general statement, or are you suggesting that there's empirical evidence that the Captain was designed based on aesthetic appeal? If there is evidence, I'd like to know what specifically you're referring to.

Could that have been the case? Sure. What I'm interested in finding out is how someone knows for sure that it is the case.
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Hi Kaizen,

Jason said that he was not all that interested in the appearance. It was a "logical" design. He sid he wanted to combine the "inside curve" of the hawkbill design but also include a belly that could be used for skinning or other cuts requiring a belly. He would also like for us to make a serrated version with the teeth inside the hawkbill section. We're still watching ELU reaction.

He felt that there was enough point to begin a cut.

He also wanted a fairly stout knife, capable of some heavy duty work without concern for slippage or breaking tips.

The "swedge" if you will, was to reduce the overall weight of the blade and it has since become sort of his trademark. We have another Jason Breeden design for which we just made a concept model. We've shown it in a few shows with positive reaction. It also incorporates the same swedge in the design.

Jasons design was one of the very few that we've received that had excellent ergos right from his original design. No "tweeking" from the Spyderco R&D team was necessary.

The grind was difficult to do.

The model is surpisingly effective, but one must overcome the unusual appearance to give it a try.

sal
 
I love the Captain. It's weird and little esoteric but it cuts and it cuts well. The front edge works for food prep similar to an Ulu style blade and the back edge works great for general utility.

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Sal Glesser said:
Hi Kaizen,

Jason said that he was not all that interested in the appearance. It was a "logical" design. He sid he wanted to combine the "inside curve" of the hawkbill design but also include a belly that could be used for skinning or other cuts requiring a belly. He would also like for us to make a serrated version with the teeth inside the hawkbill section. We're still watching ELU reaction.

He felt that there was enough point to begin a cut.

He also wanted a fairly stout knife, capable of some heavy duty work without concern for slippage or breaking tips.

The "swedge" if you will, was to reduce the overall weight of the blade and it has since become sort of his trademark. We have another Jason Breeden design for which we just made a concept model. We've shown it in a few shows with positive reaction. It also incorporates the same swedge in the design.

Jasons design was one of the very few that we've received that had excellent ergos right from his original design. No "tweeking" from the Spyderco R&D team was necessary.

The grind was difficult to do.

The model is surpisingly effective, but one must overcome the unusual appearance to give it a try.

sal
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Thanks for the clarification Sal. This was my original point, there was a poster (not enderwiggin) who was making claims that the design was not based on utility. All I'm saying is that if you're going to make a claim about something as if it were a fact, have some facts to back it up. Opinions are great, but lets not confuse the two.

I mean this on general principle, the fact that we're talking about a Spyderco model is irrelevent.
 
spoonrobot: what is that keychain in that picture next to the captain? is that a flint steel?
 
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