Spyderco Endura 4 ZDP-189 Model # C10PGRE

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Has anyone bought this knife, do you like it? Does it use a torx screw to tighten/loosen the blade to fix blade play or a lame rivet type thing? Are they going to be making more in ZDP? thanks.
 
Has anyone bought this knife, do you like it? Does it use a torx screw to tighten/loosen the blade to fix blade play or a lame rivet type thing? Are they going to be making more in ZDP? thanks.
 
I had one for a while and loved it. Wound up selling it when some quick fund raising was needed. Outstanding slicer although generally I find the Enduras a little big for my liking, even though I have large hands. Don't know about your torx/rivet question sorry.

Since selling the Endura I've bought both the Delica 4 FFG and Dragonfly 2 in ZDP and they are both brilliant.
 
The Endura 4 utilizes all screw construction. Just be advised that you can easily damage it by improper assembly, and such damage will not be covered by warranty.
 
I don't find pinned construction lame, but the Endura 4 uses scew construction. Just remember when you take it apart for no reason that if you put it back together wrong you will damage it, and that damage will not be covered by warranty.
 
yablanowitz said:
I don't find pinned construction lame, but the Endura 4 uses scew construction. Just remember when you take it apart for no reason that if you put it back together wrong you will damage it, and that damage will not be covered by warranty.
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Thanks man i'll be careful :thumbup: I'm still thinking about picking one up with ZDP, i may do it just to say I have the ZDP one, even if it is harder to sharpen. If anyone else has Spyderco Endura 4 ZDP-189 Model # C10PGRE and likes or dislikes it I'd appreciate just a few more comments on it and thank you to gooner. The one I am looking at currently is just shy of 100 bucks at 95.
 
there are some excellent knife stores represented here including the owner of the forums. support the forum supporters. You can check their online listings. You know who you are dealing with this way, will get the best prices, and can have people to talk to if something goes wrong.

As far as the knife is concerned it's been around several years. It's a very high performance steel run harder than most. It's not especially hard use as far as steels go but it is very wear resistant, likes very high sharpness levels and will probably help if you have something like SIC or diamonds to sharpen with. It laughs at regular soft arkansas type stones. For a steel with such high levels of chrome ( 20% ), it isn't as corrosion resistant as you might expect as the chrome is mostly in carbide form and not free chrome which helps keep rust away. It's not near a carbon steel, but it is probably less resistant to corrosion than S30V, and those type stainless steels. It's a true exotic. Maybe the Ferrari, or NSX of knife steels. :)

Good luck.
 
Buck knives I like said:
Sort of hoping to find more users of the actual knife and less steel enthusiasts although thank you for the information.
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It's fair to say that the standard VG10 Endura is for users, and the ZDP version is for enthusiasts. That would be why you are getting enthusiasts chiming in. As far as production is concerned, if you see it in the catalog, then it's regular to limited production.
 
RevDevil said:
It's fair to say that the standard VG10 Endura is for users, and the ZDP version is for enthusiasts. That would be why you are getting enthusiasts chiming in. As far as production is concerned, if you see it in the catalog, then it's regular to limited production.
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Regular production refers to any item that is produced regularly, as in part of the standard line up. Limited production means just that. It is being produced in limited quantities for whatever reason the manufacturer may deem worthy. The online catalog is available through their website, and most knife manufacturers also have catalogs and lists of products on their websites.
 
Sort of hoping to find more users of the actual knife and less steel enthusiasts although thank you for the information.
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I am a user and have been for a few years. Since it came out the first day it came available in fact. It's an Endura but has ZDP instead of VG10. I described the traits I felt were important for you to know before buying. If you expect it to sharpen like VG10, be as stainless as 440C, as tough as 3V, you might be disappointed.

Anything in particular you need?
 
It is a good knife for a good price. Take it if you haven't got one yet! I EDC'ed Endura for a couple of years. Though it was an older version with a saber-ground blade. It was carrying very well for its size, being so flat and light. And you would hardly ever need a folder with more blade! The only disadvantage was the grind: I remember when I was cutting a watermelon it was a bit awkward. But with a full flat grind you should not have that problem.
Be warned: it has a backlock and there will be some blade play. It never bothered me.
 
RevDevil said:
It's fair to say that the standard VG10 Endura is for users, and the ZDP version is for enthusiasts. That would be why you are getting enthusiasts chiming in. As far as production is concerned, if you see it in the catalog, then it's regular to limited production.
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I'm both an enthusiast and a user I guess :D The Endura zdp is one of my most used knives for every day carry. I just sharpened it last night on my Lansky diamond kit. While I can get it very sharp, I can't get rid of the toothy edge, which still works great.
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Poez said:
It is a good knife for a good price. Take it if you haven't got one yet! I EDC'ed Endura for a couple of years. Though it was an older version with a saber-ground blade. It was carrying very well for its size, being so flat and light. And you would hardly ever need a folder with more blade! The only disadvantage was the grind: I remember when I was cutting a watermelon it was a bit awkward. But with a full flat grind you should not have that problem.
Be warned: it has a backlock and there will be some blade play. It never bothered me.
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This is what I'm talking about, thanks for the information man! so a little blade play with this style of locking mechanism is normal with the spydercos?
 
I also carry this knife frequently - it is a great design and the ZDP-189 will hold an edge for a loooong time.

One comment about ZDP-189 being "hard" to sharpen. It really isn't any harder to sharpen than other steels - but it does take longer. The steel is harder and resists your efforts to remove metal from the edge. But just keep after it, using the same technique you use for any other knife - it takes patience (and in my case, at least one more beer).

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Buck knives I like said:
... so a little blade play with this style of locking mechanism is normal with the spydercos?
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Many people consider it normal: being a part of the game. Others even deny it exists: because it is really minimal. ZDP version of Endura is sort of premium: so you can also depend on Spyderco doing their best in fit and finish.
 
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