Spyderco: Gayle Bradley vs Para Military 2

Noctis3880 said:
I love the supreme edge retention of M4, but I find it stains easily. I wouldn't let it anywhere near any food prep use unless you wipe the blade and pivot area with a Marine Tuf Cloth first.
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You use Tuf Cloth on a knife used for food preparation?
 
It comes down to light vs heavy to me. The GB is a heavy pocketful and the Para 2 feels quite a bit lighter.

I sold my GB but I still have two Para 2's if that tells you anything.
 
I ordered a GB this morning -but weight seems to be an issue on this thread ,do you guys think it would be fairly easy remove the scales and drill out some material to lighten it up a bit?
 
BITEME said:
I ordered a GB this morning -but weight seems to be an issue on this thread ,do you guys think it would be fairly easy remove the scales and drill out some material to lighten it up a bit?
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The second production run, which is probably what you've got coming, has skeltonized liners from the factory.
 
I cant wait till the next Gayle Bradley comes out... I wonder what steel Gayle's going to use on it*cough*m390*cough*
 
I have both but the Para I gave is the S90V CF version. I feel that is a better comparison. Apples to apples guys.
Of the two I prefer the Para2 simply because I feel it is easier to open and close and is much lighter. The Gayle Bradley is a very special knife though. My rust fairly easy too and that is the main reason I do not carry it.
 
JNewell said:
I've been reading this since your first post. I'm still not sure what to tell you because it's not really clear what your priorities are. :) I have both...both are great knives, but they are fairly significantly different in various ways. Size, weight, lock, pocket-friendliness, stainless/carbon steel.
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Well, right now my biggest concern is whether my jig would fit on both knives, but it's not my biggest priority because I can always free-hand, I just like to use my jig for some things ( steels that are hard to reprofile for example ) 'cause the results come out better. So if the DMT Aligner clamp fits the GB but not the Para2, my choice would be a little easier.
 
My DMT aligner fits both my para 1 and GB. I guess you're back to square one. There is a flat spot on the GB near the thumbhole but it doesn't have a straight spine. I can work around that with my DMT clamp, no problem. The para 2 has a flat spine but is FFG so you'll have to do the pinching thing on the clamp when you set it.
 
singularity35 said:
My DMT aligner fits both my para 1 and GB. I guess you're back to square one. There is a flat spot on the GB near the thumbhole but it doesn't have a straight spine. I can work around that with my DMT clamp, no problem. The para 2 has a flat spine but is FFG so you'll have to do the pinching thing on the clamp when you set it.
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Okay, well, that's good news more than it is bad news though since it just leaves me to choose based on the merits of the knives themselves.

Also, not sure what you mean by the "pinch" thing. Is it a simple trick? Don't want to get too off-topic...
 
GB in VG-10! Hahaha... alot people are going to hate me for making this statement.
I'll go with the para 2 if i were you. Compression lock is good, but u'll have to get used to it just like any new locks.
 
singularity35 said:
I just made a video. I hope this is intelligible.

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Made perfect sense, but I just never realized that it would do this. Then again I've never had trouble with full flat grinds, just hollow grinds, so I assumed it had to be a 90* in relation to the spine on both sides, like a saber grind.

Well, anyway, yeah... I'll just have to make my own decision from this point. As much as the GB looks like an awesome knife, I'll probably go with the Para2 beacuse it makes more sense for my uses and I think the CPM-M4 might be a little much for my waterstone.

Does anyone here do both Spyderco's S30V and CPM-M4 on a water-stone? How much slower does it take for M4 really?
 
You SHOULD have no problem with the staining on the GB. I wouldn't even put corrosion resistance as a negative unless it was seeing a lot of nonstop foodprep, caustic chemical work, or use in and around salt water.

Now, it will darken ever so slightly eventually, but nothing like the more traditional carbon steels that can get very dark with little effort. So if you MUST have a knife that stays the perfect shade of gray, then maybe that's not for you. but if you just want to use your knife, should be no big deal.

Noctis3880 said:
Believe me when I say that the steel is as vulnerable to corrosion as 1095 carbon steel.
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:confused: I think that I, and just about anyone else who has used both steels for a variety of uses, would disagree with that statement. Might as well say S30V is too vulnerable to corrosion as well, I've known some fishermen who weren't too happy with the rusting on those ones....

edit: looks like you'r going paramillie. which is a fine choice, and I was actually going to recommend to you for your said uses before I got carried away on M4's corrosion resistance :p

Love the blade profile of both the Military and Para, probably more than any other Spyderco besides their Wharncliffes. Also love Spyderco's S30V
 
I agree, 1095 rusts wayyy easier for me in regular use than M4. M4 may not be stainless, but it's not a simple carbon steel.
 
It has been a month since you posted this so I'm wondering if you made a choice. As a devoted Paramilitary 2 user who just received my first Gayle Bradley, I'd like to hear which you chose and what you think.

My Gayle Bradley is exactly as has been described here so many times. It's just a tank - a very beautiful tank. The fit and finish are outstanding and the lockup is amazing. I have been carrying my sprint run Paramilitary 2 for three months now and I don't think the GB will be able to replace it. It's not because of the extra weight (the 1.75 ounce difference is negligible) or slight difference in thickness. I'm just a little more partial to the shape of the Paramilitary 2 handle. But when I know ahead of time that I'm going to be doing some tough cutting tasks, the GB will be going into my pocket - and I'll be looking forward to those tasks.
 
Can't beat the high speed particle tool steel on the bradley.:thumbup:
 
Have both and like both a lot.

Edge holding and fit and finish--GB wins.

Ergonomics and light weight--Para wins, especially on ergonomics.

If I had to choose--I simply refuse to do so.

If you could combine the best attributes of both--watch out! G-10/Ti M-4 Millie comes close to doing that.
 
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