Spyderco = Glock

fedaykincmndr said:
I wouldn't call a Glock simplistic in design; there are a lot of small moving parts IIRC.
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There are indeed. The illusion of simplicity comes, I think, from the fact that to clean a Glock after normal use, it only disassembles into like 3 pieces. I consider the design efficient and elegant, but not simplistic. :)

Edit after reading ashtxsniper's post: God I need to move to Texas.
 
Glocks' ergonomics suck.
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Maybe for your hands, but certainly not for mine...or the millions of others who prefer Glock.;)

Glock "innovation" is the ripping off of design elements from elsewhere and synthesizing a product for the lowest common denominator.
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Nothing can change the fact that Glock changed the gun world forever...and in a positive way.
Just as Spyderco changed the knife world forever...also in a positive way.

Spydercos are great knives and Glocks are great guns.
No matter what the naysayers claim, for the price, they both perform better than the competition.
 
Bad ergos? Perhaps for some. Certainly not for many, including many people who have forgotten more about handguns than I am likely to ever learn. I shoot the Glock 36 in .45 better than I shoot most compact 9 mm's, and almost (not quite) as well as I shoot an HK P7 (my favorite semiauto of all time). But the '36 has better stopping power, is a lot lighter, and costs 1/3 as much. Others will prefer the Sigs or the 1911 or the CZ or the XD or the Taurus version of the Beretta, or decline the auto altogether, preferring (say) an SW 640 or a Colt Detective Special. Every one of these designs is a classic, and we need not disparage any one of them to praise another.
 
I think it's a good comparison, as both are great tools for their job. Glocks fit my hand great, point perfectly, and my Glock 20 combines the utter rugged reliability of the Glock design with my favorite pistol cartridge, the 10MM. Over the years that model has proved itself to be one of the few 10MM pistols that doesn't shoot itself apart. Between my Glock 20 & Glock 17, there have been over 11000 rounds sent downrange without 1 malfunction. They are so simple to work on and customize it is amazing. You want a lighter trigger pull? Give me the 3.5 lb. connector and in 2 minutes you have a lighter trigger pull. You need to detail strip it? Use a 3/32" punch (available on the tail end of a sprint run Endura, by the way) and give me a couple minutes and the gun is completely broken down and ready for cleaning or inspection. Or, if you are lazy, I have gone over 1500 rounds without cleaning my Glock 17 with no problems, and many others have gone many more rounds without cleaning. I admire and have shot 1911's, XD's, Sigs, HK's, and others, but the Glock just fits my hand better than those and flat out works every time for me.

Mike
 
Chinese man said:
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I don't have my XD yet, but I will be getting it towards the end of this month! 4 inch in .40 S&W in OD green!:eek:
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I have a 4" .40 S&W in Bi-tone. Its an awesome gun. Fits my hands better than any other gun on the market. Glocks are good weapons but feel uncomfortable in my hand. I would have chose a sig over a glock or an xd but they dont fit right in my hand.
 
msiley said:
Hmmmmm. So is a Buck 110 a 1911? :-)
I wonder what my BM 710 is?

I can see the relationship though. Spyderco changed the knife
industry by providing light weight high quality knives
and Glock did the same for guns.
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Maybe early Spyderco = 1911?

Spydie popularized (if it didn't invent?) the one-hand opening blade and pocket clip. In this respect I think the early Spydie Worker (stainless steel handle) and then the 1st-gen Endura and Delica might be roughly analogous to the 1911.

But I believe the Buck 110 did popularize the modern lockback and robust folding knife. If those features are analogous to the short recoil design, then I would agree Buck 110 = 1911.
 
Boats said:
It's a disservice to Spyderco to compare them to Glock.

Glock is a one trick pony. Glock nearly sold out gun owners along with S&W. Glock plays footsie with the ATF and ballistic fingerprinting. Glocks' ergonomics suck. Glock "innovation" is the ripping off of design elements from elsewhere and synthesizing a product for the lowest common denominator.

Spyderco has legendary customer service; Glock has recalls disguised as "upgrades," kind of like Microsoft.

Glock sucks and Spyderco doesn't.
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All I know is ever time I pull the trigger on my Glock 17 it goes bang. Sounds like a gun snob to me.
 
Boats said:
It's a disservice to Spyderco to compare them to Glock.

Glock is a one trick pony. Glock nearly sold out gun owners along with S&W. Glock plays footsie with the ATF and ballistic fingerprinting. Glocks' ergonomics suck. Glock "innovation" is the ripping off of design elements from elsewhere and synthesizing a product for the lowest common denominator.

Spyderco has legendary customer service; Glock has recalls disguised as "upgrades," kind of like Microsoft.

Glock sucks and Spyderco doesn't.
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Have you owned a Glock that left a bad taste in your mouth Boats?
Many of your arguments are (if they are correct) good business practice that all successful companies use.
Hardly a crime, like most ventures if what they make is crap they will fail.
In Glocks case I suggest you are in the minority.
 
i like glocks myself, ya know the ti ATR was designed by sal to be sold in conjunction with glock, then glock backed out for 1 ereason/another.

nothing at all wrong with the glock pistol though imho.
 
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