For me, grail holds a sense about it that it has to be a discontinued or hard to obtain knife. It is also a one dream knife. The CF Stretch in ZDP is as close to a Spyderco grail as I have. I say close because I am not actively seeking one, but I imagine one will end up in my possession at some time. For some reason, I also think of a grail as a safe queen, and I don't believe is safe queens. My grail knife would not be a Spyderco. It is a Laconico Jasmine or maybe the smaller Jasmine. I keep missing out on them, and due to many Spyderco's I really want I have put it on the back burner for a bit. I will have one though. Edit: Spyderco should do a collab with Ray.