Spyderco Military in super blue?

[Ankerson]

Ankerson, I am referring to the popularity of the SB calys, delica and Endura since this is the Spyderco forum. They had no problem selling them so I believe they are/were popular. I was referring to their popularity as a sprint run steel in the spyderco product line which I believe they were. SB's popularity in Japan and in kitchen knives is not all that relevant to its use in spyderco's edc folders. You seem to really dislike this idea but obviously not everyone does. You seemed to attack the idea in the other thread as well as in this one. I still believe a golden made sprint in 52100 would be well recieved. Just as well as the previous SB sprints from Japan. Just remember, you don't have to buy one. I do not use my knives on rope and cardboard so the high wear resistant high carbide steels you favor are not my only desire. I like S110V a lot but I myself see a use for a 52100 para2 or LW native in my rotation.

Pretty much any Sprint Run Spyderco makes will sell out quickly, some faster than others, but they all sell.

Never said I disliked the idea, just that it's not really economically logical for a SB Military if they could even find a way to do it in the 1st place.

As far as the 52100 knife it would have to be made overseas to be economical enough in the 1st place for people to buy it, it would likely have to be a sprint run and being made overseas it wouldn't be a Military....

SO the whole thing doesn't make since at all in the 1st place, it doesn't matter if I like it or not.....

The key here is made overseas and the Military is a Golden Model made in the US.

And 52100 in a FOLDER would be a huge gamble for Spyderco unless one of the Distributors funded it and then it would be a gamble for them.....

I could see it maybe in the BYRD line.

 

[bearfacedkiller]

I never suggested a SB military as that is clearly not possible.

Why would it have to be made overseas? Say you take the LW Manix2 which currently comes with BD1 and made it a sprint in 52100. What would make it economically infeasable?

Is 52100 very hard to heat treat or machine?

 

[JNewell]

They offered a mule, a caly 3, a caly, 3.5, a delica, an endura, a stretch, a ladybug, and a dragonfly and manbug are still coming. That is quite a few sprints.

Sprint sales are not indicative of how a production version would sell, unfortunately.

 

[bearfacedkiller]

I realize that a sprint run of say 1200 is very different than a regular production run of tens of thousands and I also realize that CPM M4 would find its way into either a production piece or a sprint run long before 52100 made it into a just a single sprint run but I am just curious why it seems so impossible. I am curious why it would be economically infeasible to make a golden made spydie with 52100 and seeing as how other people besides me have mentioned it (this isn't my thread) and sprint runs sell out regardless then the risk doesn't seem that high. It would certainly be very unique as 52100 folders are nonexistent. I would be inclined to think that the limited production capability and the long back log on many of their Golden models would be a bigger obstacle and would be the reason for going with a steel like M4 which is clearly in high demand.

 

[Ankerson]

I realize that a sprint run of say 1200 is very different than a regular production run of tens of thousands and I also realize that CPM M4 would find its way into either a production piece or a sprint run long before 52100 made it into a just a single sprint run but I am just curious why it seems so impossible. I am curious why it would be economically infeasible to make a golden made spydie with 52100 and seeing as how other people besides me have mentioned it (this isn't my thread) and sprint runs sell out regardless then the risk doesn't seem that high. It would certainly be very unique as 52100 folders are nonexistent. I would be inclined to think that the limited production capability and the long back log on many of their Golden models would be a bigger obstacle and would be the reason for going with a steel like M4 which is clearly in high demand.

Yeah, they do sell out, but remember 52100 in a FOLDER is almost like offering 1095 in a FOLDER...... That's a gamble.

Will it sell?

Maybe, but then again it might not sell as expected.....

Remember none of those lower alloy carbon steels set the world on fire and there really wouldn't be that much of a difference in noticeable performance between those two to make a difference... In a folder.....

The 3 people or so that mentioned it hardly make up even a small Sprint run, sure a sprint run for X amount of dollars in the same steel that can be had performance wise in $5 knives and lawnmower blades.....

Part of a Sprint run is excitement of owning something different or new or even high performance, NONE of what a simple steel like 52100 will fill in a folder that might perform like 420HC or AUS-6 maybe on a really good day, but will rust a lot easier.

Now yeah, get 600 people to sign off on paying $150 a pop for a low alloy non stainless steel folder when they can have the same knife in S30V for the same price then maybe I guess, but that's up to Spyderco to take that gamble.

Makes no since to me at all and it's a gamble... Just being logical here really.

Not so sure if Spyderco wants to get into the gas station knife business, that's below what the BYRD line costs.....

Like I said before there are plenty of cheap knives out there, the market is flooded with them to the point that they can be had just about everyplace.

That's why I laugh every time I hear things like this, well yes there are some custom makers who get big money for their slip joints, but those are custom hand made works of art made to order for a very limited group of people.

Every once in awhile someone brings it up and it never goes anyplace......

Sure CPM 3V, CPM Cru-Wear, CPM M4, S7, L6...... Steels like that create interest...... And they WILL SELL....... Because they offer something different, not the same old thing that we see all around everyplace.........

1095, 52100, 1075, 1080....... AUS-6, AUS-4, 420HC........ Well you never know, already a lot of knives around with those..... YAWN......

Now if they want to start making choppers and swords then yeah OK......