Spyderco Military s30v vs other similar tactical or utility knives?

From what I've used myself, the other production folder that stands a chance against the Millie might be the Benchmade 710 - here's a little comparison I've done on the 2 some ages ago

That was the first time I saw a good closeup of the liner lock on Military. It looks convinsing. However, is there a possibility you might disengage the lock by squeezing the handle tightly in heavy cutting?

The compression lock on PM 2 is in my experience quite impossible to disengage accidentally, therefore better, but I would like to get your opinion. Still I have started to think that a good liner lock might be better than, say, Spyderco backlock because I have experienced lock failure because of a small piece of lint inside the lock. Took rinsing with water to get it out.
 
Bump. The question is: is there a possibility you might disengage the lock by squeezing the handle tightly in heavy cutting with Spyderco Military?

If you compare the Gayle Bradley that I have and Military, the GB has, as standard, no relief for the liner lock. That makes it a bit hard to disengage, which means you really can not disengage it accidentaly. I made a SMALL relief to make intentional disengaging easier, still I doupt I could have an accident. The relief in Military is large. Therefore my question.
 
Bump. The question is: is there a possibility you might disengage the lock by squeezing the handle tightly in heavy cutting with Spyderco Military?

If you compare the Gayle Bradley that I have and Military, the GB has, as standard, no relief for the liner lock. That makes it a bit hard to disengage, which means you really can not disengage it accidentaly. I made a SMALL relief to make intentional disengaging easier, still I doupt I could have an accident. The relief in Military is large. Therefore my question.

That's twisting the handle. Not just squeezing.

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So what it takes is a twisting movement. Good to know, thank's. I quess I will be sticking to my PM + GB as a hard-use folders and also Cold Steel's as the locks in these seem to hold on whatever I do with them.
 
So what it takes is a twisting movement. Good to know, thank's. I quess I will be sticking to my PM + GB as a hard-use folders and also Cold Steel's as the locks in these seem to hold on whatever I do with them.

I do like militaries, I mostly carry a variaton of military or PM2. I just like to know the limits.
 
There are heavier, tougher built knives. Spyderco is designed to cut and slice, be easy to sharpen and clean, and be as light as possible while providing the strength needed for the jobs it's designed for. It's pretty often around here that people will talk about how it's the largest ( 4 inch blade) knife they've carried yet it is light enough to where one can get so used to it they forget it's there.

No, it's not designed for prying or batoning but it is designed for a long lifespan with very little maintenance.

There are a lot of reasons the knife keeps on selling year after year. Like Hondas or Toyotas owners get bored having them and buy more knives long before anything ever goes wrong or thinks about breaking or wearing out. The Base ( non sprint) S30V is an excellent performing steel. Pretty tough for a stainless , and that is coming from a guy that generally looks down on stainless blades and chooses Tool and high speed steels.

Unless abuse ( or a very different viewpoint on what folding knives should be used for) or extreme use are things you must have in a knife the Millie is top tier performance wise.

Joe
 
Agreed, the military is a great example of what a knife is supposed to do. Even the base model with S30V is really good. I've owned 15 folders, not much compared to a lot of people, but I use each of them hard, from benchmade to Kershaw, from ZT to Rick Hinderer. For tasks that a knife is actually required for, the military does it well. It's comfortable, the lock is sound, the blade profile and thickness is spot on, and there are several ways to open it quickly. It's a toss up which one I can open fastest, this or one with ball bearing pivots, but for number of ways to open it, the military wins. It's something most people don't think about, I know i didnt until I started screwing around with the military. It's meant to cut, and it does it well. It's meant to be comfortable, and it does it well. It's meant to be a utility knife, and it does it well. Any knife can have its faults exposed, but when you look at the reasonableness of those faults and what they mean to real people in the real world, the military has extremely few.

Having said that, it's tip down carry only. I'm usually a tip up guy but the tip down carry of this knife is what makes sense because of it's length. Its opening action is buttery smooth and if you flick it open, it flies. You can also open it slow and and smooth.

I can go on about the steel used but it's been covered. It's my preferred folding knife and I've owned a range of em. Not bad for a general design that hasn't change since I was a toddler.

I still like their mule team blades for sheer functionality, value, ergonomics, and the steels available. Even if you pick up a K390 on the secondary market for 150 bucks, that's a great steel and it's still a good price. It's damned hard to find K390, S110V, quality Damascus, 52100, Hitachi Blue Super, and a variety of other steels for what they cost on the secondary, let alone the original prices of about 80 bucks.

There are heavier, tougher built knives. Spyderco is designed to cut and slice, be easy to sharpen and clean, and be as light as possible while providing the strength needed for the jobs it's designed for. It's pretty often around here that people will talk about how it's the largest ( 4 inch blade) knife they've carried yet it is light enough to where one can get so used to it they forget it's there.

No, it's not designed for prying or batoning but it is designed for a long lifespan with very little maintenance.

There are a lot of reasons the knife keeps on selling year after year. Like Hondas or Toyotas owners get bored having them and buy more knives long before anything ever goes wrong or thinks about breaking or wearing out. The Base ( non sprint) S30V is an excellent performing steel. Pretty tough for a stainless , and that is coming from a guy that generally looks down on stainless blades and chooses Tool and high speed steels.

Unless abuse ( or a very different viewpoint on what folding knives should be used for) or extreme use are things you must have in a knife the Millie is top tier performance wise.

Joe
 
One of our most distinguished and recognized steel-testers on this forum has pretty well settled on the Millie in S30V for his EDC.
He has used nearly all steels. His choice represents His desired balance of technical parameters and personal choice.
Ankerson knows what he wants....
 
I missed this post before.

The Military is the best folder I've ever owned. The knives I've owned in the same category are the 710, Para 2, and Emerson horseman. For utility task the Military beats all of those knives.

That's a pretty diverse assortment, seriously those three are what I'd tell someone whose never owned a quality knife to try out before deciding on what they like most.

I agree that the Military is the best utility knife out there. Like someone else said, it's just strong enough for cutting chores, making it incredibly light for a blade its size. The lock is also as simple as it gets, it's a big flat piece of steel that is very unlikely to fail when needed. The lock interface is a deep hollow grind, unlike most liner locks which just have a flat cut, so the lock is far less likely to over extend past the blade to the frame on the other side. I carry all sorts of knives around town or to the office, but when I go deep out in the woods I bring a Para2, Military, or Emerson mostly for their rugged designs, ability to resist the elements, and simple and time tested liner locks.


I'm not a knife fighting expert but I think that my horseman would be better for tactical needs. Faster deploying, secure handle, stronger feel.

You're right.

The Horeseman is a mini CQC-8, which was based on the Echanis/Wanner/Taylor Warrior fixed blade knife, designed to be ideal in either a reverse or forward grip and safe with a large finger guard to keep your hand from sliding up the blade. The CQC-8 is a brilliant design, and also makes a versatile utility knife with it's strong supported point and gently bellied blade.
 
I use knives just for cutting chores and have paramilitary2in s30v that I started using few weeks ago and love the steel and its performance.NOW i want the military too because of longer blade.Iam pleasently surprised by performance of s30v.(have read many times how it chips ,is hard to sharpen,etc)
 
A lefty Millie in s30v is my EDC.

Well, it wasn't my EDC until I made it more butch.

The weakness in the Millie's handle is not the partial nested steel liners and it is not the G-10.

It's the penny pinching aluminum backspacer that is the weak link. Short stainless steel screws are held in place with an aluminum block tapped with shallow holes. I twisted my Mille apart trying to work it out of a quarter round I bit too deeply into trying to slice off a sliver for starting a camp fire.

Stripped out aluminum block thrown away and two installed stainless steel backspacers later, and my ol' fragile Millie is tough enough to actually be called a Military instead of a little girl's name.
 
I tried the handle twisting thing with my Gayle Bradley. No effect whatsoever, lock remained solid. I presume this means something conserning the quality of those knives. I keep my GB, thank you very much :)
 
That's a pretty diverse assortment, seriously those three are what I'd tell someone whose never owned a quality knife to try out before deciding on what they like most.

I meant to say of the brands he mentioned. Don't know why I wrote that. I definitely agree with recommending those three to people looking for a quality knife.
 
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