Spyderco Military Step up

A step-up over the Military:

(1) Benchmade 710-3 (CPM-M4) - I've always preferred the ergonomics, lock, and blade design of the 710 over the military/PM2. The 710 sports a thinner, more pocket friendly profile, and fits better in my hand. The lock strength and deployment speed far exceeds the military and has proven marginally more reliable than the PM 2. The stout tip increases tip strength and the slight recurve causes it to slice a tad better. The only advantage a military/PM2 has over this knife is the forward choil.

(2) Spyderco Stretch - The stretch is tied with the Sebenza for the most ergonomic knife I own. The blade to handle ratio, weight, and cutting performance of this knife is outstanding. It's probably the best performing knife in my collection. Sal put his heart and soul into this knife, and it shows. The Stretch is easily the best Spyderco, beating out even the PM2 and Military. The lock arrives stiff but gradually smooths out with use.

(3) CRK Sebenza 21 - Much more expensive, but the once and future king of large folders. I suggest picking up a CF version. You'll have a knife that is lighter, smoother, and stronger than the military. It'll hold its value and give you a solid benchmark to compare other folders to. The simplicity of this design, unearthly tolerances [this is something that a person must see and feel, and compare to other knives to fully appreciate, and sleek profile make this knife magical.

(4) Strider SNG - Although not as strong a choice as the CRK 21, a Strider SNG in Z-Wear represents a step up in terms of sheer durability, lock strength, and construction. Personally, I've never preferred SNGs due to their price [could get a Sebenza for same value], the reputation of Strider's owner, and somewhat clunky feel in the pocket/hand.

(5) ZT 560 CF/SV110 - A flipper deployment system sporting a Ti-frame lock, monster steel cutting edge, and carbon fiber scale? I don't have one, but it's one of the best performing combos out there. I'd take it over a Hinderer. The 560 has great ergos.
 
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In keeping at around a 4" blade and narrower profiles that feel good in your hands try the Benchmade Contego 810 (CPM-M4) or MicroTech Socom Elite (S35-VN).
 
Nice thing about going with para 2- you can go for a match!

I went the other way, the para 2 is one of my favorite folders and I recently gave the military a try.

 
Wow thanks for the input guys! Great suggestions!
I had a socom elite for a little while and I liked it but the glass breaker rattled and it made me nuts. I know its nit picky. ( I'm not sure I need a glass breaker on my folder anyway)
The sebenza interest me a lot. I've never seen one in person.
 
I would say the next step up would be a Microtech Socom Delta. I had an elite back in the day and it was excellent. My personal step up, and the reason I no longer have a Millie (though it is an excellent t knife) is a Shirogorov 95 Hati. Unfortunately they are pretty much impossible to find!
 
The aluminum spacer? Who cares if it's there? No flame intended, I honestly don't get that one.

You will, if you ever take your knife apart and apply more than a tiny amount of pressure on your screwdriver and strip it out. I like 99% of what Spyderco does, but steel screws into aluminum is poor planning.

The military has a better handle. The lock on the pm2 can dig into your hand plus the guard gets in the way in some grips. The military has a huge handle but I've found it to be more comfy in a variety of grips.

What I like about the PM2 is the hump on the bottom of the handle (side the blade comes out of). Becasue of the linerlock on the Military it has half the hump filled in. This makes the PM2 feel more like a fixed blade to me.

pivot bushing system. I can take it or leave. I definitely don't see any advantage it provides. It makes the knife feel more "mechanical" which some may like. I don't.

It allows for the tiniest amount of friction with no perceptible bladeplay.

But everyone's different.

Indeed, and I'm glad they'll probably sell both models for the forseeable future.
 
Step up and similar would be a fluted Titanium Military. Interesting so many Microtech suggestions today.
 
I've tried quite a few, but haven't found any step ups from the Military. I had STR make a Ti clip for my CF Millies to shave of a couple of grams and I love Ti.


I have quite few 3-3.5" folders that compete with each other, but at 4" I haven't found any I'd wanted to keep so I have 4-5 Millies:o

The older Millies have stainless steel standoffs inside a polymer frame while the newer ones have an anodized aluminum spacer. I have removed the polymer frame and kept the standoffs on all but one of mine.
 
The older Millies have stainless steel standoffs inside a polymer frame while the newer ones have an anodized aluminum spacer. I have removed the polymer frame and kept the standoffs on all but one of mine.

I have a Millie from 1996, when they first came out. The frame is G10, not polymer. Also the back spacer is plastic, not aluminum.

I may carry something besides a Millie from time-to-time, but nothing I have can really replace them. They are just all around great knives. Anything I would consider a step-up would cost considerably more than what I paid for my millie's, so that goes unfulfilled for me.
 
I might not have been clear:o The plastic (polymer) back spacer on early Militarys has stainless steel standoffs inside that the t6 screws go into. If you remove the back spacer one can take out the standoffs and put the knife together without the plastic back spacer. The scales have always been G10 (or CF or Ti)
 
The Military can not be beat!
However, in an attempt to do so, I found that BM's 806-1101 AFCK is close to being a Military combined with an axis-lock, and it sports a 4" blade of M390.
But as far as price, weight, ergo's, and ability...I would put the S30v Military at the top of production knives.
The sprint runs with exotic steels are just there to tease us Military lovers.
The Sebenza would also be a good compliment to your collection.
 
I don't like the backspacers either. Other than that, the Military is pretty much close perfection. For me, at least.

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I might not have been clear:o The plastic (polymer) back spacer on early Militarys has stainless steel standoffs inside that the t6 screws go into. If you remove the back spacer one can take out the standoffs and put the knife together without the plastic back spacer. The scales have always been G10 (or CF or Ti)

Hey, I did not know that. I might look into that little modification. :thumbup:
 
I would say the next step up would be a Microtech Socom Delta. I had an elite back in the day and it was excellent. My personal step up, and the reason I no longer have a Millie (though it is an excellent t knife) is a Shirogorov 95 Hati. Unfortunately they are pretty much impossible to find!

i find it kind of funny that the guy who talked me into buying the military no longer owns them. your s90v millie review pushed me over the edge. im still carrying that military several years later. i actually own 3 of them now hahaha
 
Be patient. There is another forum that likes Spyderco. And it has chatter about a Military 2. Using the little talked about new stop lock.
 
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Hi,
I had the same question after 3 years with the military and now I have in the mail a Shirogorov 95 in M390 steel.
I was considering a paramilitary 2 sprints, microtech socom delta, microtech ultratech, spyderco police 3, benchmade 710, XM -18 3.5, RJ martin q36 and Kirby Lambert.
Para 2 sprints and microtechs are difficult to find in Europe and are verrry expensive, police 3 and 710 are only a small step up from the military, XM-18 at street price was to pricy for me, for RJ and Kirby direct from the maker I had to wait one year in line.
My wife is Russian and we have relatives in Russia. With her help I managed to place an order directly to Shirogorov and after 4 month the replacement for my military is in the mail. I paid 500 USD for the model 95 with CF inserts, bearings and M390 blade.
I hope you find your knife.
 
Wow this ones tough for me to answer. If we are staying with the 4 in mark for production blades and not be a Spyderco it would be my hogue ex 01 now for a mid-tech be my xm24 slicer grind. So many great knives out it seems like each brand would have something that could match the Millie.
 
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