spyderco military thoughts

I currently carry an S90V Military IWB as well. It is normally comfortable unless I remain seated for long periods, like driving. Otherwise it's fine. As a whole I really like the Military in all it's configurations. When I first purchased a 440V Military years ago I thought the liner lock was a tad on the thin side when compared to other similar knives. Years of use proved me wrong as the lock is still secure with no play. The liner lock on my S90V is considerably stiffer than my previous pieces and lockup is still VERY tight even after numerous "spirited" openings.
 
i am curios to see if the lock its stronger or at least as strong as that on the ti-lite
(i have the zytel one)
the price i have to pay for the military is 180 euros, is that a bit high ?
i live in europe...
 
The Military is a very attractive knife, and I would have one but I'm really put off by how exposed the liner lock is. If youre gripping it tightly and there's any torque on the knife in the right direction that lock is disengaging.
 
sketchbag said:
The Military is a very attractive knife, and I would have one but I'm really put off by how exposed the liner lock is. If youre gripping it tightly and there's any torque on the knife in the right direction that lock is disengaging.
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maybe il skip it for now...
 
The ti-lite I had a few years ago had the worst lock of any knife I have ever owned. The millie's lock is one of the best liner locks I've seen so far, so for me to compare the two would unfair.
 
The Military is on my list. There's just one thing I would like to know: is S-30V practical to sharpen without diamond hones?
 
I've never had the Military's lock disengage even under hard cutting with a tight grip. Maybe I've been lucky though. I've heard of liner locks failing this way before. I mainly use DMT diamond hones for my sharpening and with these I've never had a problem sharpening 440V, S30V or anything else. I also have a Spyderco Sharpmaker and the results have been great there too. I haven't had to sharpen my S90V military yet, but have heard it is some tough stuff.
 
How is a flat ground, 4mm thick, 4 inch blade "thin?"

I think the weight of the knife throws people off. It was designed to be thin, ultra lightweight, and extremely tough. What do you plan on doing with the knife that would not make it a "hard use" folder?
 
jacktrades_nbk said:
i am curios to see if the lock its stronger or at least as strong as that on the ti-lite
(i have the zytel one)
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The Walker linerlock on the Military will break in the "heavy duty" range, over 100 inch/lbs per inch of blade. (550 inch/lbs x 4" blade is average for the Mil) This is actually quite strong for a linerlock because of the length of the spring.

However, reliability of a lock is a far more important issue than ultimate strength. We've been refining the model for some 10 years now. Improvement has been constant. The model seems to work well for its intended design use (large folder, light, strong, safe, ergonomic).

We're working on a newer version, but we'll more than likely continue to make and refine the Military in its current format as well.

sal
 
Midwest Ninja said:
The Military is on my list. There's just one thing I would like to know: is S-30V practical to sharpen without diamond hones?
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Yes. Most of my EDCs are S30V and all I use is a Sharpmaker. I use it on my Spydercos, CRKs, Striders, and Benchmades... all S30V... no probs. I just don't let them get dull.
 
I've reprofiled the edge on my Spyderco native s30v with just a coarse stone out of a Smith's sharpening kit from Wallyworld. Wasn't too difficult.
 
Sal Glesser said:
The Walker linerlock on the Military will break in the "heavy duty" range, over 100 inch/lbs per inch of blade. (550 inch/lbs x 4" blade is average for the Mil) This is actually quite strong for a linerlock because of the length of the spring.

However, reliability of a lock is a far more important issue than ultimate strength. We've been refining the model for some 10 years now. Improvement has been constant. The model seems to work well for its intended design use (large folder, light, strong, safe, ergonomic).

We're working on a newer version, but we'll more than likely continue to make and refine the Military in its current format as well.

sal
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thanks Sal, i am ordering the military right now
the reply from the president of Spyderco works for me
Great honor to hear from you , i never expected this.
thanks all for the replies
il be back with my thoughts of my new Military in a few days, when it arrives
 
jacktrades_nbk said:
well, for SD i carry a cold steel safe keeper 2, and sometimes a spyderco spot, so i wont be buying the millie for that...even if i believe it would be capable of defense, because i am pretty sure the push dagger is superior in that area.
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Push daggers are over-rated.:thumbdn:
Got a chance to try one out on various fabrics and woods, plastics, and a tree, and my Military, Chinook, and especially the BM Resistor were FAR superior.
Push daggers SUCK for slicing cuts as well, compared to a good old fashioned regular knife.
Didn't like it at all; I really don't care anymore that push daggers aren't allowed in Canada, after the suckiness they exhibit.
 
stabman said:
Push daggers are over-rated.:thumbdn:
Got a chance to try one out on various fabrics and woods, plastics, and a tree, and my Military, Chinook, and especially the BM Resistor were FAR superior.
Push daggers SUCK for slicing cuts as well, compared to a good old fashioned regular knife.
Didn't like it at all; I really don't care anymore that push daggers aren't allowed in Canada, after the suckiness they exhibit.
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the push dagger is mainly for thrusts, not for slashes, and its highly dangerous
if you can practice a little training with some friend, you will see how dangerous it is.
even if the other attacker twists yor arm, the dagger blade will end up stabing him.
trust me, the push dagger is a weapon per se, and a very dangerous one.
anyway, i prefer the spot for self defense, because i dont want to kill the attacker if humanly possible.
 
jacktrades_nbk said:
the push dagger is mainly for thrusts, not for slashes, and its highly dangerous
if you can practice a little training with some friend, you will see how dangerous it is.
even if the other attacker twists yor arm, the dagger blade will end up stabing him.
trust me, the push dagger is a weapon per se, and a very dangerous one.
anyway, i prefer the spot for self defense, because i dont want to kill the attacker if humanly possible.
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I know it's for thrusts; the other knives outperformed it.
I've found in training that the extra flexibility a regular handle gives, combined with better cutting properties, facilitates much better ability to cut one's way out of a grip.
To me, the main thing in favour of a push dagger is that it can be picked up and used relatively effectively with little to no training; if you can puch, you can stab.
With even a modicum of training effort, the other designs of knife shine much more, utility-wise and defensively.
Even the karambit allows more tactical flexibility of options.
But they do look kinda cool, I'll give them that.:thumbup:
 
I just thought I might mention that my S90V Military just got used for a couple of days worth of drywall repair work with no problems and one sharpening at the end. It isn't as delicate as some people seem to think. I'm not too sure about carrying it in waistband though. That peel-ply carbon fiber is pretty grippy. Getting it to let go of the fabric to put it away may be challenging.
 
yablanowitz said:
I just thought I might mention that my S90V Military just got used for a couple of days worth of drywall repair work with no problems and one sharpening at the end. It isn't as delicate as some people seem to think. I'm not too sure about carrying it in waistband though. That peel-ply carbon fiber is pretty grippy. Getting it to let go of the fabric to put it away may be challenging.
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Thanks for the info :thumbup:. Glad to hear that the seemingly fragile tip isn't as frail as we all thought :D. I may just have to carry it for a little while just to feel better about it again (currently carrying my new 550SHG griptilian).
 
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