Spyderco or SOG

[Nighthawk5080]

I've been looking closely at Sog and Spyderco for the past few weeks deciding what knife to buy and what company to go with. I like both the spyderco Endura 4 and the Sog Flash II, but i am open to other suggestions. I have about $60 or so to spend and i am looking for somthing practical, long-lasting, and fun to use/show. what knives do you think would be worth looking into and compared, which is better, the Endura 4 or the Flash II?

 

[G3]

I handled the SOG Flash series and wasn't that impressed. Not saying they are cheap but something about them felt that way. I would go Spyderco. Especially the Endura line which is tried and tested.

Forgot to mention I have a SOGwinder II that I bought years ago. It's one of the oldest knives I still own and still wicked sharp. They are pretty hefty lockbacks.

 

[leemovie]

I've been looking closely at Sog and Spyderco for the past few weeks deciding what knife to buy and what company to go with. I like both the spyderco Endura 4 and the Sog Flash II, but i am open to other suggestions. I have about $60 or so to spend and i am looking for somthing practical, long-lasting, and fun to use/show. what knives do you think would be worth looking into and compared, which is better, the Endura 4 or the Flash II?

Never handled a Flash II, but the spyderco Endura has better steel and design.

 

[irabren]

check out the sog vision - 1 beautiful knife !!

 

[barrabas74]

I own many endura's and really like the new endura 4 I think its a great knife. The sog is a good knife too but I prefer it over the sog, my friend owns a vision and prefers that. Go hold em, put em in your pocket and see which one calls out "buy me"

 

[JD Spydo]

I have been collecting knives for the better part of 15 years. I have encountered and used at least 20 different brands of commericially produced knives. I have come to the conclusion that the 2 best production knives for the money are Spyderco & Benchmade. And necessarily in that order too.

For about the last 5 years I have pretty much focused my collecting/using on Spyderco and I have had no disappointments. Their repair, customer service and superb quality of their products is just un-paralleled.

Now I am not saying that SOG is not a quality product>> I am just saying that Spyderco is better for at least 10 different reasons. The Endura is just one of dozens of Spyderco knives. If you want one that really overshadows them all then get a Spyderco with the ZDP-189 blade steel. Good Luck

 

[Death's Head]

Greetings NH!
First off, some welcoming is in order. We're to have you here at Blade Forums.

I have a SOG that I just love. It cost me more than ahundred bucks though. I handled the flash and found the workmanship to be pretty shoddy. Cheap zytel and less than perfect grind to the blade. Endura is not even in the same league as the Flash. The Endura out performs the Flash across the board. Even though the scales are also nylon, the fit and finish is much better, and the texturing is great.
I suggest getting your hands on a waved Endura.
Stay sharp!
DH

 

[Nighthawk5080]

Thx for all the advice. I post a thread at 11:00 at night and get people responding while i sleep!

DH: I keep hearing about a waved Endura but i cant find a site that has a picture of one and no one seems to have them in stock. Im guessing they aren't out yet. Do you know when they will be released?

 

[ahgar]

i've had a couple of sogs and they were ok but i would definitely go with the spyderco endura 4. i've had all but the 4 and they were great. and the 4 is supposed to better.you won't be sorry. later, ahgar

 

[JPD1998]

I think it's really a matter of personal preference and your planned use for the knife.

I never handled the Zytel Flash II , but I own an aluminum Flash II and it is a very high quality knife.

The flash II is assisted opening , I don't know if that's important to you.

I have a Spyderco Native ( not the Endura) and IMO it's nothing special to look at, it's riveted together and the blade rubs against the frame. But the design is excellent and its a knife I carry quite often when I need a serious cutting tool . It's a lot of knife in a small package.

If I were ever to buy another Spyderco model I would look for something lined and screwed together. The Endura 4 is one I would consider, it looks to be contructed with Torx screws, but I don't know it it has a steel sub frame.


Heres a link to a waved Endura

http://www.selfdefensegear.com/Merc...r&Product_Code=C10PGYW&Category_Code=Spyderco

 

[puukkoman]

Spyderco. Always.

 

[DGG]

Welcome to the party. Three things I try to consider when buying a knife are-

1. Is it made by a company with a good knife making reputation?

2. How does it feel in my hand? Could I peel and cutup a 50# bag of potatoes without my hand cramping up?

3. What does it cost?


I leave it up to the knife maker to decide what is the best steel and how to heat treat it.

The feel is the subjective and important part.

The cost will keep you from overpaying for a knife that will work for you.

I like both of the knives you mention. I think they are both made by good companies. What I don't know is how they would feel in your hand after they were worked for an hour or more.

 

[T.K.C.]

Welcome to BF!! I hope you enjoy it here!! Spyderco all the way!!!!! I feel that Spyderco knives are better than SOG's. And you really can't go wrong with any Spyderco you choose!

 

[tarmix101]

BENCHMADE.... Sorry. Not a choice. Spyderco for sure. Better design, and materials used IMHO.

 

[flipe8]

Welcome to the Forums. I've only had one SOG, a Switch II, and was less than pleased with it. I didn't find it held an edge very well, it had significant blade-play that could only be remedied by tightening the pivot to the point where the spring-assist wouldn't work and the spring actually ended up breaking after about 6 weeks. It might have been a lemon, but I'm not going back for seconds to find out. I've had twentyfive or so Spydies and really cannot say I've had any problems with them. Delica/Endura4 models are near if not at the top of the pack for value and performance. Good luck.

 

[MacTech]

Welcome to BF, NH

I'd also reccomend a Spydercom you really can't go wrong with any Spydie you choose...

as far as which one to get, it's personal preference really, what will you use the knife for?

i do a lot of breaking down boxes and such, so i tend to lean more towards the downturned-point Hawkbill blade styles (Cricket, Harpy, Dodo...), they give great point control for boxwork, but don't work as well for anything needing a "stabbing" motion or anything needing a flat/curved belly (food prep)

you can't go wrong with a an Endura or Delica, the wally-world Native is also a great buy

knives i'd reccomend looking at;

Delica and Endura (version 3 and version 4), the ver. 3 knives have a non-lined handle and a pointier, more delicate "splinter picker" tip, the Ver, 4 has a less pointy, stronger tip, steel lined FRN Nylon handles, and are constructed with screws and can be dissasembled for cleaning

the Salt 1 and Pacific Salt are essentially a Delica (Salt 1) and Endura (Pacific Salt) with the Ver. 4 style blade in the Ver. 3 handle, the blade is made of H-1 steel and it *will not* rust, many people here (myself included) have tried to get it to rust, and it just won't, the Salts are truly maintenance free, rinse 'em off under the tap, shake them dry and shove 'em back in your pocket, H-1, under normal conditions, *will not* rust....

the Dodo has a cult following here, this "Boxcutter on Steroids" is one of Spyderco's most unique designs, it was designed around the ergonomics of the hand and is arguably one of *the* most comfortable knives in the Spyderco lineup, don't judge it by it's looks, this is a knife that needs to be *held* and *used* to understand it

for a small, NKP (Non-Knife-People, A.K.A. "Sheeple")-freindly knife, the Stainless Steel Cricket is a great knife, the "Reverse-S" Hawkbill blade gives this little knife (less than 2" long blade) the cutting power of a knife twice as long, and it fits unobtrusively in the watch/change pocket of jeans, or remove the pocket clip and it'll fit inside a wallet, most NKP think the Cricket is "cute", so you should have no bad interations with the sheeple....

 

[stevekt]

flipe8, my experiences with the Twitch 2 were similar to yours. If you adjust the pivot too loose you get blade play, too tight and the assisted opening does not work properly. It is pretty tricky to find just the right tension for the pivot but there seems to always be a bit of blade play or opening failure. I put some Loctite on the pivot screw and lubed in the pivot area but the knife is a bit twitchy. Mine has not broken though.

 

[Halfneck]

The Waved Endura is a upcoming Sprint (limited) release.

I was looking at getting the SOG Trident assisted opener as a beater/yardwork knife. Really liked everything I was reading on it. When I handled one I liked it. When I compared it to the Endura I ended up getting the Endura. Better steel, and the SOG's Blade was very thin. Helped that the Endura was $50 vs $65 for the SOG Trident.

The SOG Trident was a nice folder, I usually don't like SOG's folders. I was just worried with the thin blade getting messed up cutting garden trim, and sacks of gravel & soil.

So far the only complaint with my Endura has been getting the soil out from inside the knife. Was only slightly harder than an open back knife.

 

[flipe8]

Stevekt, hopefully yours stays unbroken. Funny thing is, after I took out the broken spring and re-tightened it, I though it was better knife. I also really liked the look of it. I found the finish on the handles to be quite durable.

 

[stevekt]

Yeah, it doesn't always behave but it really is a good looking knife. Good handle size/shape. The blade also has a nice shape and sharpens easily. And it comes in 4 or 5 different colors.

I might take mine apart again and see if I can find a higher tension spring. That might allow me to tighten the pivot and still get a good opening.