Spyderco pacific salt rumors

[Mr FRINGE]

So the spyderco pacific salt all black looks great but I've heard some rumors that it can bend side to side easily because of no liners and the soft h1 steel edge will fold easily or just dull quicker. I was gonna get a purple delica but this looks nice since I'm attracted to black blades, I handle big knives better like the Endura but I was going to hold off till knifeworks full black Endura. So any thoughts on this h1 or delica/endura better than the pacific salt? (for edc role)

 

[RevDevil]

Where are you getting your information from man?

 

[Joosh]

Depends what you want it for. The Pacific Salt is really not an urban EDC blade and definitely not a hard-use folding knife. It is simply meant to be a sharp edge that resist corrosion well. I would suggest going with the regular VG-10 Delica/Endura and you can get those with blackened blades (albeit at the price of serrations, also). VG-10 is fairly corrosion resistant and holds a good edge for a decent length of time, and can be sharpened easily enough. I hope that helped

 

[Bugout Bill]

It would take an awful lot of abuse to destroy a Pacific Salt. H1 isn't tin, so it isn't going to bend very easily. It is also a fairly tough steel as well. Yeah, it doesn't hold an edge all that long, but it does resharpen very easily.

 

[Mr FRINGE]

Where are you getting your information from man?

Rumors around the web, just thought I'd check them out.

 

[Mr FRINGE]

Depends what you want it for. The Pacific Salt is really not an urban EDC blade and definitely not a hard-use folding knife. It is simply meant to be a sharp edge that resist corrosion well. I would suggest going with the regular VG-10 Delica/Endura and you can get those with blackened blades (albeit at the price of serrations, also). VG-10 is fairly corrosion resistant and holds a good edge for a decent length of time, and can be sharpened easily enough. I hope that helped

Ya I live in a pretty urban environment but like I said I'm really stubborn in the fact of how much I like black blades better than Satin. I was looking for something to hold me out till May when knifeworks comes out with ffg black blade endura and delica.

 

[RevDevil]

Rumors around the web, just thought I'd check them out.

Seems like you are lending far much more credibility to these rumors than they deserve. If you are interested, search out what H-1 steel actually is, and read about the history of the design. Simply sputtering and regurgitating rumors isn't a good thing, for many reasons. I won't get into the data on H-1 or the Salt series, as it has been discussed ad nauseum already, the information is on the forum if you care to look for it.

 

[James Y]

Depends what you want it for. The Pacific Salt is really not an urban EDC blade and definitely not a hard-use folding knife. It is simply meant to be a sharp edge that resist corrosion well.

I EDC a Pacific Salt (SE), and for me it works very well for an urban EDC. I don't get why it wouldn't, other than maybe its size when using it in certain company. It's basically an upgraded Endura 3. I own both PE and SE versions, though I carry the latter. SE H1 holds an edge very competitively with and, in many cases, better than SE in other so-called "better" steels. Just because it's essentially corrosion-proof does not mean it has no applications outside of a marine environment.

Pacific Salts are also pretty tough, as tough as you should reasonably expect from a folder. I've had/have Endura 3's, and never broken one in use. Of course, I don't expect my folders to take the place of hammers, pull-up bars, axes, etc. And if anything, the Pacific probably has an edge in terms of toughness over the old Endura 3.

Jim

 

[HWF]

 

[addylo]

If you read it on the internet it must be true.

 

[dishcore]

H1 Steel is relatively soft in comparison to other steels, but that is a good compromise for it's supreme corrosion resistance - it's a great saltwater knife. If you're looking for an all around use black spyderco, I would suggest a Black Manix 2

I've had the satin version of this exact knife (154CM blade) for about 2 years now and love it, have never had any problems with it.

 

[X_shooter]

Dont be silly. Just buy one and decide for yourself. Remember its a cutting tool and not a prybar.

 

[Mr FRINGE]

H1 Steel is relatively soft in comparison to other steels, but that is a good compromise for it's supreme corrosion resistance - it's a great saltwater knife. If you're looking for an all around use black spyderco, I would suggest a Black Manix 2

I've had the satin version of this exact knife (154CM blade) for about 2 years now and love it, have never had any problems with it.

Yea I've been eyeing the black manix 2 but it's a bit out of my price range right now.

 

[fzla226]

H1 is a strange steel, it's work hardened, so the serrated edge models will hold their edge a lot better.

Depends what you want it for. The Pacific Salt is really not an urban EDC blade and definitely not a hard-use folding knife. It is simply meant to be a sharp edge that resist corrosion well. I would suggest going with the regular VG-10 Delica/Endura and you can get those with blackened blades (albeit at the price of serrations, also). VG-10 is fairly corrosion resistant and holds a good edge for a decent length of time, and can be sharpened easily enough. I hope that helped

That's a bit of an understatement. You can put H1 steel in chlorine bleach and it wont rust. It straight up doesn't rust.

H1 Steel is relatively soft in comparison to other steels, but that is a good compromise for it's supreme corrosion resistance - it's a great saltwater knife. If you're looking for an all around use black spyderco, I would suggest a Black Manix 2

I've had the satin version of this exact knife (154CM blade) for about 2 years now and love it, have never had any problems with it.

I wouldn't go with a Manix 2 just yet. Best to wait till the old versions are sold off and you can get a black version with the newer FFG blade.

 

[chambelona59]

Re: Pacific Salt Info / H1, came across this page today while looking for info myself.

http://www.cliffstamp.com/knives/reviews/pacific_salt.html

And I had been interested in a Pacific S. H1 for awhile, finally picked an inexpensive one up from the Bay, it arrived this morning.
Will not be an EDC for me, but would/will take it to an Aquatic environment.
Incredibly light in weight, o.t. box sharp and quite long.
I've EDC'd a Ladybug H1 for a long time, sharpens easily, I get it scalpel sharp, really enjoy it.

Oh, by the way... not on this Pacific Salt as it's "H1" is applied onto the blade differently, but on the non coated/black H1 blades, the only one place that will show a very little bit of rust colored 'tarnish' on an H1 blade, is the number "1" in the H1 logo, as the "1" next to the H is 'engraved' into the steel just barely below the surface of the blade.
I wipe my Ladybug clean after contact with liquid so I don't get any, but I have seen several instances of the "1" developing a bit of brown 'tarnish' inside the "1" if not wiped clean before storing it, easily gotten rid of with a bit of steel wool.

 

[cncpro11]

I am extremely fortunate that if I am interested in a knife I can buy it and decide for myself if it meets my expectations or not and I seriously doubt that you would be disappointed if you buy a PS, but only you can decide.
For $70, the Pacific Salt is a great value and absolutely durable enough to withstand what it was designed for.

 

[James Y]

Re: Pacific Salt Info / H1, came across this page today while looking for info myself.

http://www.cliffstamp.com/knives/reviews/pacific_salt.html

And I had been interested in a Pacific S. H1 for awhile, finally picked an inexpensive one up from the Bay, it arrived this morning.
Will not be an EDC for me, but would/will take it to an Aquatic environment.
Incredibly light in weight, o.t. box sharp and quite long.
I've EDC'd a Ladybug H1 for a long time, sharpens easily, I get it scalpel sharp, really enjoy it.

Oh, by the way... not on this Pacific Salt as it's "H1" is applied onto the blade differently, but on the non coated/black H1 blades, the only one place that will show a very little bit of rust colored 'tarnish' on an H1 blade, is the number "1" in the H1 logo, as the "1" next to the H is 'engraved' into the steel just barely below the surface of the blade.
I wipe my Ladybug clean after contact with liquid so I don't get any, but I have seen several instances of the "1" developing a bit of brown 'tarnish' inside the "1" if not wiped clean before storing it, easily gotten rid of with a bit of steel wool.

That's not the H1 rusting; it's metal residue left from whatever was used to etch or stamp the logo onto the blade.

Jim

 

[Hawk45]

Pick the knife that meets your needs.
If you want a big blade in a lightweight package to cut stuff in high moisture environments.. the PS is for you.
If you want it to stab into brick walls and cut electrical wire, get a pry bar and wire snips.
If you want a blade for self defense, get a gun or fixed blade and training.
Myself, I prefer the lighter weight of the PS to the Endura. Edge maintenance is simple and it cuts well for my needs.

 

[akula83]

This has been on my radar too, for shoreline camping in WA state and trips to The Outer Banks, NC. I have experience with H1, it lost it's razor edge soon after use so I just brought a sharpener along, problem solved.

 

[RevDevil]

Give and take, just like with any steel. The trade off for the corrosion resistance is a lack of edge retention (plain edge). The same cannot be said for the serrated version of this piece though, which will retain sharpness for a really long time.