Spyderco pivot pins or screw?

marthinus

marthinus

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I was just wondering on the reason why Spyderco do not use a pivot screw than just a pivot pin(don't know the real word for the pivot pin). For example the delica 3 has the pivot pin and the delica 4 has the screw. The reason. I am wondering if anyone had any problems with the pin? I am thinking on getting a salt spyderco after my benchmade arrives (ONE DAY SOON HOPEFULLY) but the pins are bothering me a bit.

Thanks for the help.
Marthinus
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Some people think a screw pivot allows adjustment and makes cleaning the knife easier. Others, like myself, think anything that can unscrew will eventually do so at a most inconvenient time. This is especially true in an application like a blade pivot, where the screw is subjected to rotational loads every time the knife is opened or closed. For that reason I prefer the simplicity of a rivet or pin. Thankfully, Spyderco makes models to satisfy both camps.
 
IIRC, Sal has said that Spyderco's riveted knives are stronger than those with all screw construction, though I'm sure you wouldn't noticed a difference during normal use.

I used to appreciate folders that were screwed together, because you can take them apart for cleaning and maintenance. Lately though, I don't really care much. It's kind of nice to just throw a knife in your pocket without having to worry about loose screws or how tight the pivot is.

Spyderco seems to do a really good job at getting the pivot tension just right on their pinned folders. I wouldn't be concerned at all about the rivets vs. screws issue when buying a new knife.
 
Thanks for the info. When I go to pick up my griptilian from the shop Ill have a closer look at the spydies. I am considering to buy a spydyrco and the grip at the same time and do a review. I do like the pacific salt. I like the H1 blade steel. No heavy maintenance on the knife. Almost like a Swiss army knife. Rust free!!!!!!!! So you can just chuck it in your board shorts and go for a swim.
 
Overall strength of a FRN body folder won't compare to one with steel liners, G10 or Micarta and pins or barrels. The Pivot itself being solid vs a barrel? Well, yes, by itself that solid pin is stronger and will take more force to shear but overall the build of the steel lined one is the better knife and if its pinned in places and screwed in others it will be very strong either way. I don't think there are too many problems with strength with the Manix or Mini Manix vs the old style Endura and Delica. Both work and both have their place with pricing the knives to the market. I prefer the screws over pins myself and consider screwed knives to be a step up in quality, closer to approaching what you get when purchasing a handmade folder from a maker.

Shearing even the small #2 screws used in knives like those on any typical USA made pocket clip takes quite a bit of force. Much more than most humans can generate.

STR
 
When it comes to rivets vs screws, I see it like this....

As much as I like screw-constructed knives, they are the ones that give me the most trouble.

I can't tell you the number of times that I have stripped screws, broken off the heads of screws, cross-threaded screws, bent screws, and lost screws.
And they always seem either too loose or too tight.
And screws always lead to more purchases...screwdrivers, torx-drivers, Loc-Tite, etc....
And when I go hiking or camping I always feel the need to bring along a repair kit with the proper screwdrivers and a few extra screws...you know, just in case.
It'a all quite silly if you think about it.:o

But I have finally cured myself of the madness....
I'm now more than content with my riveted folders.
My Pacific Salt never gives me a lick of trouble.
And the same is true of my Buck 110's.

Sure, they might not be as strong as a screw-constructed folder, but I think they're plenty strong enough for my purposes.
I can honestly say that I have never had a folder fail me because of its riveted construction.

Anyway, that's my two cent's worth.

Cheers,
Allen
 
I actually prefer the pinned versions.

That is not to say my Delica 4 isn't a nice knife, I just like the pinned ones better.
 
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