spyderco tatanka vs cold steel espada large?

All the Triad lock is, is the addition of a stop pin. The Spyderco looks like its got a lot going on in there. I like the looks of it and the blade is indeed cool, wish them luck.
 
Personal preference. Which lock is stronger seems irrelevant if either lock is strong enough to satisfy what you need the knife to do.

I personally love the Cold Steel and Tri-Ad mechanism and that is my personal preference for the toughest. Though when I want something that is slim in the pocket I will throw on the Spydie Police 3 and have every confidence that the lockback will survive the use I have intended for it though I feel the Triad is tougher.

In this case since you are interested in the Tatanka you should get it. The steel is no doubt higher end and it does have the newest mechanism which is cool for the new flavor.

I have definitely had pocket lint make my Delica and Endura fail. Gotta check 'em for that.
 
crom said:
All the Triad lock is, is the addition of a stop pin. The Spyderco looks like its got a lot going on in there. I like the looks of it and the blade is indeed cool, wish them luck.
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That simple addition changes the strength of the lock significantly. It's not like the change is merely aesthetic.
 
Kaizen, I realize what the stop pin is for, I think it's a cleaner and simpler design for a hand tool. The KISS principal and all that.
 
The Mastiff said:
I have carried an Endura lockback since 92. I have never seen lint disable the lock. It has a pocket in the design to catch debris and keep the lock functioning. It would require a lot more lint than I've seen especially since lint compacts down so well. Perhaps someone is thinking of another knife design or exaggerating or really goes out of their way and buys a lint farm and grows pocket lint by the bale. :) That might do it. Me? I wash the lockback knife in the washing machine in my pants pocket. That gets any grease or oil out. The dryer then drys out the lint and if you can't blow it out a toothpick will take out the now dried lint wad/animal hair ( used to have 3 cats and 2 dogs when I was married). That's only needed when it gets bad and even then it never disabled the lock on my knives. That pocket design it what makes the knife blade flex when pressed hard. Many people think it's a defect or from hard use

Yes, I would take the Tatanka. I like the design better, as well as the steel though the Cold Steel knives shouldn't be taken lightly. They were plenty tough even before the Demko design was incorporated. I have tried a few that really were finger bruisers to unlock. It takes them a very long time to break in and loosen up even slightly.

As I understand it the engineer that designed the original design for the Spyderco Back lock also designed the original Cold steel Back lock. Don't know about updates or generational changes.

Joe
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It's not that my backlocks have been "disabled", but that when trying to open the knives after pulling them out of the pocket, lint has prevented the lock from engaging until I blew the lint out. As much as I love the Endura/Delica Wave, this issue happened so many times, I just don't feel confident that the lock would engage consistently for emergency situations. This most recently happened on my lil Matriarch within the last week.

This issue has been acknowledged by plenty of people online, so it seems a bit biased to brush it off as something that is automatically the user's fault.
 
A waved knife with a compression lock or a ball lock with a more utility shaped knife than the P'kal would be cool.
 
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All that said, I have no clue whether or not the power lock will have this same issue. Although it looks superficially similar to the back lock, I think it should be viewed as something completely different until more feedback from users come in.
 
Since there is no notch in the back of the blade for the tatanka, and the back lock portion simply pushes down on the back, would lint be an issue? Seems to me that it would not get jammed in anywhere like the back lock designs.
 
Rostislav said:
Since there is no notch in the back of the blade for the tatanka, and the back lock portion simply pushes down on the back, would lint be an issue? Seems to me that it would not get jammed in anywhere like the back lock designs.
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The only reason we started talking about this is because I mistakenly thought the Tatanka had a standard Spyderco mid-backlock. I noticed that I was wrong afterward, but then the discussion about lint and backlocks had already begun and this is where we're at now. As mentioned above, although it looks superficially similar to a backlock, there's no immediate reason to view the power lock as the same thing as the mid-backlock and thus, there's no immediate reason to presume that the lint issue is a concern with the power lock.
 
Kaizen1 said:
It's not that my backlocks have been "disabled", but that when trying to open the knives after pulling them out of the pocket, lint has prevented the lock from engaging until I blew the lint out. As much as I love the Endura/Delica Wave, this issue happened so many times, I just don't feel confident that the lock would engage consistently for emergency situations. This most recently happened on my lil Matriarch within the last week.

This issue has been acknowledged by plenty of people online, so it seems a bit biased to brush it off as something that is automatically the user's fault.
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True. I've seen it myself on an Endura I had given in 1992, even though I had never experienced it myself. It is confusing at first because it is not apparent, but it definitely disables the lock, and disables it completely. I was very surprised at this. It requires at least a few seconds with a very narrow expedient tool to clean it off, so it is not possible to solve it instantly. It also seems to happen to some people and not to others... The Spyderco Endura is the only knife I've ever seen do this, so it must be something peculiar to the design of the handle/pivot area.

Gaston
 
I've had the large Espada for years and I just got the Tatanka. They are both excellent knives as far as I'm concerned. The Espada has the advantage of the thumbclip for fast opening but I put a zip strap into the Tatanka spyderhole which opens that knife very quickly as well. Although the Espada's blade is longer, and the knife is longer overall, the Tatanka seems a little heavier.
 
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