Spyderco Tropen

sgt1372 said:
You're entitled to your opinion about the knife and I don't want to re-litigate the issue in this thread. That's already been done in the thread I referenced above.

However, what you've said is pure nonsense. The length of the "exposed" edge is only about 1/2" long and there is NO way to cut yourself on it unless you push your finger into the space and intentionally try to draw the tip of your finger along it which is prevented by the edges of the cut out.

If you've actually "seen" people deliberately cut themselves on this edge, prove it! Let's see the video. Otherwise, just stop this nonsense. It's already been done.

Just added marrenmiller marrenmiller to my ignore list. Life is too short to be bothered with such idiocy.
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Whoa, that went from zero to overreact real quick. Have a good one, dude.
 
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As I was getting to, I've cut myself on knives with smaller bits of exposed edge or on exposed tips enough to where I sort of laugh when someone says this isn't a real issue. Sure it probably won't cut you if you're just holding the knife, but people's hands/fingers do all sorts of things that aren't expected by the designer. If my finger slips off the flipper tab, it goes straight into the edge. If I grab the knife like an impact tool, there's risk of your finger contacting that edge. If I have the knife in my pocket and reach past the spine to get something deeper in the pocket, then I can easily cut myself. Heck, if I just forget what I'm holding and absentmindedly go to grab the lock to release it like a PM2, I'll cut myself.

A folding knife shouldn't be foreseeably capable of cutting someone when closed.
 
The design is flawed . You should not be able to cut yourself on a closed folder . Period !

It's probably not something that could not be adapted / compensated for after you cut yourself 2 or 3 times .

I wouldn't mind trying one at a bargain discount price . ;)
 
marrenmiller said:
Whoa, that went from zero to overreact real quick. Have a good one, dude.
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Don't worry he did the same to me, because I asked him to fact check himself on something he was very wrong about. He thought I said something way different. A sheltered life is a happy one.
 
Dobe_1 said:
Let you know soon. I’m looking forward to it.
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It's a nice knife. A particularly unusual blend of ridiculous and practical. I'm not interested in carrying it for SD, but you get a very large blade that's well suited to a number of tasks, including food prep if you wanna go there with a folder, in a package that's really deceptively slim and lightweight.
 
Mo2 said:
Some great points brought up here

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marrenmiller said:
As I was getting to, I've cut myself on knives with smaller bits of exposed edge or on exposed tips enough to where I sort of laugh when someone says this isn't a real issue. Sure it probably won't cut you if you're just holding the knife, but people's hands/fingers do all sorts of things that aren't expected by the designer. If my finger slips off the flipper tab, it goes straight into the edge. If I grab the knife like an impact tool, there's risk of your finger contacting that edge. If I have the knife in my pocket and reach past the spine to get something deeper in the pocket, then I can easily cut myself. Heck, if I just forget what I'm holding and absentmindedly go to grab the lock to release it like a PM2, I'll cut myself.

A folding knife shouldn't be foreseeably capable of cutting someone when closed.
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DocJD said:
The design is flawed . You should not be able to cut yourself on a closed folder . Period !

It's probably not something that could not be adapted / compensated for after you cut yourself 2 or 3 times .

I wouldn't mind trying one at a bargain discount price . ;)
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^ I'm with these guys.

I've had at least three cases of cutting myself on a closed knife, twice in my pocket and once out. In the pocket I managed to jam a fingertip into the end of a Southard just right and spear myself on the barely concealed tip. I also cut the side of my palm open on a Medford 187 RMP when I reached into my pocket for something else and the side of my hand brushed along the back side of the knife and contacted the heel of the (extremely sharp) blade. That time I didn't even feel it and first noticed the wet feeling of dripping blood, not the cut. The heel of the blade is so exposed that if I run my fingertip along the wide groove between the handle slabs, not pushing hard, it will almost cut me if I watch it from the end on view--the lightest pressure on my finger and the flesh squishes into that channel a bit and it's time to bleed. The other time was on a Spyderco compression lock that I didn't move my finger out of the way quick enough when closing (a Junior, I think).

All three of those knives had cutting edges much less exposed than on the Tropen. I don't care if you carry it for three months and don't get bit, that doesn't mean it won't happen eventually and who needs that? A folded pocket knife shouldn't need to be sheathed to be safe.
 
Not my image, but here's a lovely photo of the knife:

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That is complete trash. That whole knife just looks like a prototype that's still in the Beta. Hard to believe that it actually dropped as a finished product. Plus, the "wave" looks like it's one of the aftermarket Instagram specials where someone dremeled out the Spyderhole. It doesn't look like a designed product at all.

In any case, I have an Emerson Super Commander I paid like $180 for on the secondary market, making this knife absolutely not on my radar. A more robust product in pretty much every way. Also, the SC has the added benefit of not having an exposed edge near a lock-tab. So, win win win for me.
 
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evilgreg said:
Not my image, but here's a lovely photo of the knife:

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Wow! I usually don't get involved in these type of threads disparaging some minute design feature on some knife, but that is a nasty cut just waiting to happen. I carried a CRKT Kiss for a few years as a money clip and learned my lesson about exposed edges. It only took cutting myself about five times.....
 
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  • A well designed knife should have ZERO exposed cutting edge when closed.
  • A well designed knife should have the cutting far enough away from the spine or use a protective back spacer to prevent contact with fingers when closed.
  • A well designed knife should prevent access to the tip when closed.
Too many well designed knives available to buy a one with such a poorly designed feature. If WE or Reate released a knife with this design/safety flaw, BF members defending the Spyderco would probably be tearing them apart.
 
It's super weird how people that own one aren't worried or hurting themselves and people who don't own one are up in arms.

I don't know who to believe. I guess whoever shouts the loudest will be the rightest.

I find that on any of the expensive collaboration knives like that I don't buy until I have had it in hand.

For me any little thing I don't find to my taste is a reason to pass.

I think it's a big mistake to get one blind expecting that because it's expensive that it will be perfect for me by default.
 
Well, it just came in.

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I hadn't had it more than 5 minutes and:
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This came from gripping the knife in the following manner:
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I like the overall design and the lines of the knife. The up-sweep blade is nice, as well as the point being above center axis. The exposed edge is a bad design.
All is not lost. I will not send it back. A bastard file will take care of any of the problems.

Before anyone ask or suggest, I did not cut myself deliberately.
 
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