Spyderco with a Demko Tri-ad Lock?

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Does anyone else love lockbacks? They are ambidextrous, work with or without gloves on, etc. The Tri-ad lock is the best IMO.

I wish I could get a Spyderco Endura with a Tri-ad lock. Just imagine... the Spyderco heat treatment and steel with the Tri-ad lock!

Maybe Sal and Eric will buy ColdSteel.

I hope they do.
 
I would doubt that would happen on the spyderco buying gsm/cold steel from its owner platinum equity.

patents about up on the tri-ad. we'll likely see more use of it outside of cold steel.

I dont have any interest in an endura with a tri-ad myself...dont see the need. I would like to see Andrew Demko reuse his own lock in his own brand one day, though.
 
Endura with a triad lock? For what? The blade stock on a Spyderco is thin so it can slice, not handle the unnecessary abuse that Cold Steel markets the triad lock for.

Don’t get me wrong, the triad lock is great and I love me some cold steel, but the stuff they do with their knives is dumb and 99.9% of people buying them will never use them that way.
 
Medieval Peasant said:
Endura with a triad lock? For what? The blade stock on a Spyderco is thin so it can slice, not handle the unnecessary abuse that Cold Steel markets the triad lock for.

Don’t get me wrong, the triad lock is great and I love me some cold steel, but the stuff they do with their knives is dumb and 99.9% of people buying them will never use them that way.
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Saber ground Endura's are pretty thick and tough.
 
This is my Manix (the original). For that backlock to fail, a lot has to go wrong.

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Spyderco actually did do something like this with the Power Lock on the Tatanka. It's a variation of the lockback that gives it additional strength. Turns out, there wasn't much of a market for it and it got discontinued. Also, the particular design they used to increase the strength of the lock made it nearly impossible to disassemble and get back together.

It would be hard to find a lot of instances of their normal lockback failing. I think Bladehq released some videos where they tested the Delica and Endura, and the blade and handle broke before the lock could.
 
I love the Triad. I'm going on a hiking trip where weight is a factor and I realistically think I can more than get along with a just a 4" folding knife IF it sports a Triad lock.

That said, they aren't the easiest to disengage compared to others. For a knife that I carry as an EDC that will be used a lot to cut during the day and strength isn't the biggest factor? I would rather have something easier. I think the Spyderco back lock is just fine with a bit of a preference to the compression lock over that for ease of use.
 
Tsujigiri said:
Spyderco actually did do something like this with the Power Lock on the Tatanka. It's a variation of the lockback that gives it additional strength. Turns out, there wasn't much of a market for it and it got discontinued. Also, the particular design they used to increase the strength of the lock made it nearly impossible to disassemble and get back together.
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In the Chinook 4 as well.
 
Steely_Gunz said:
For a knife that I carry as an EDC that will be used a lot to cut during the day and strength isn't the biggest factor? I would rather have something easier.
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That's actually a good point, and I think Cold Steel could do a lot better to make their locks easy to disengage, without giving up anything in terms of strength. There's a wide variance of required force to disengage even within their lineup; the AD10 and Rajah II need a lot less than the Espadas, Bush Ranger, Spartan, and Black Talon. And if they made the lockbar wider, crowned it a little, and added a dip like on the Spydercos, it would be far more comfortable to push on.
 
Tsujigiri said:
That's actually a good point, and I think Cold Steel could do a lot better to make their locks easy to disengage, without giving up anything in terms of strength. There's a wide variance of required force to disengage even within their lineup; the AD10 and Rajah II need a lot less than the Espadas, Bush Ranger, Spartan, and Black Talon. And if they made the lockbar wider, crowned it a little, and added a dip like on the Spydercos, it would be far more comfortable to push on.
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A lot of times you can take them apart and it helps, but yeah, they are still not fidget friendly/easy to pop open and closed like an Axis, Compression, or even their Atlas.
 
Medieval Peasant said:
99.9% of people buying them will never use them that way.
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Curious how you arrived at this factoid . 🤨

People who buy "hard use" gear , might possibly just have an actual increased need for such , compared to the general population .

Seat belt saved my life only about twice in my long life .

A few seconds , at most . A vanishingly small percentage of my total driving time . :rolleyes:
 
Tsujigiri said:
That's actually a good point, and I think Cold Steel could do a lot better to make their locks easy to disengage, without giving up anything in terms of strength. There's a wide variance of required force to disengage even within their lineup; the AD10 and Rajah II need a lot less than the Espadas, Bush Ranger, Spartan, and Black Talon. And if they made the lockbar wider, crowned it a little, and added a dip like on the Spydercos, it would be far more comfortable to push on.
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???. I have a couple of dozen knives with triad locks. I am 72 years old, a former cubical worker with hand strength suitable for manipulating a slide rule, and I occasionally find the slide catch on a Glock difficult to disengage for cleaning; but I have no problems disengaging any of the triad locks on any Cold Steel knife I own or have handled.
 
knarfeng said:
???. I have a couple of dozen knives with triad locks. I am 72 years old, a former cubical worker with hand strength suitable for manipulating a slide rule, and I occasionally find the slide catch on a Glock difficult to disengage for cleaning; but I have no problems disengaging any of the triad locks on any Cold Steel knife I own or have handled.
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None of them are to the point that they can't be disengaged, but I'm saying they could be more comfortable to disengage without any adverse effects to the function. My Lionsteel TM1 is the easiest I've tried, just because the lockbar is so wide. Whereas my Black Talon is the most annoying because they didn't chamfer the edges enough.
 
knarfeng said:
???. I have a couple of dozen knives with triad locks. I am 72 years old, a former cubical worker with hand strength suitable for manipulating a slide rule, and I occasionally find the slide catch on a Glock difficult to disengage for cleaning; but I have no problems disengaging any of the triad locks on any Cold Steel knife I own or have handled.
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I have had a couple that were hard to disengage, especially the first Code 4 I tried. Turned me off until I tried another one that was buttery smooth. But nothing compared to the horror stories of people having to push them against table edges, etc. I was amazed how easy the AD10 was to release out of the box.
 
I have an Endura and the CS Air Lite tri-ad. Honestly, the difference is barely noticeable if you don't actively try to destroy the knife, which I don't think you should.
 
There is a review of the civivi vision that has a shark lock variant. So the guy batoned with it.

The lock held.
But the blade gave out.

I imagine most Spyderco's would go the same way.
 
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