Spyderco??

Liner locks have been my favorite since they came out, followed closely by framelock(RIL).

I don't have any Chinese knives, but my other liner lock Spyderco's are very well executed.


Locutus D'Borg said:
Well, I guess it could be worse: a liner lock AND an Elmax blade :):):)
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Gave me a chuckle :D
 
Those Spider Company knives are probably the junkiest knives out there. Not to mention every single one has that typo in the word Spider. What does that say about their quaility control? Yeah, quaility control.

That Ziti Pee-189 Dragonfly, thing can't hold an edge worth a damn. Dulled by cutting butter. I have no idea how I continue to use it every day at work.

XHP Mule? What are they trying to imply it has XtraHorsePower? Junk junk JUNK! Not even sure why I carry one in my backpack.

Manix 2 lightweight? Blue handle? Knew it was junk when I first took it out of the box. What kind of knife has a blue handle? They're supposed to be black, duh.

And I mean this Titanium Military in my pocket is the biggest piece of junk out of them all. It just feels cheap and noodly.

I much prefer my Bare Grills Gerber. If a baby food company can make a decent knife you'd think some Spidery Company would be able do a half decent job. But nooooo.
 
Kwon Kwang said:
It's great that his held up, and I hope it continues to. However, this one didn't, and mine will be relegated to the same tasks I would trust a slipjoint to. My issue with it is not an isolated incident.

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Don't get me wrong. I need to emphasize that I consider myself to be an increasingly big Spyderco fan, and my next knife will probably be a Spyderco, just like my last knife purchase. I just really, really don't trust this lock, or liner locks in general anymore.
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The problem I see is that when your knife failed, you make a sweeping conclusion. When Blais' knife perfomed well, its
an.isolated case. Very good deductive powers on.your part.
 
Kwon Kwang said:
It's simply a test of lock strength. In use, a knife may endure a shock or get wedged into the material that it's cutting, and locks may fail. Fingers don't grow back.

I've inspected the knife and it's not damaged at all. Looks like new, on the blade, tang and liner. I haven't used it much, either, but I would obviously include what it's been through in the selling post.

Then again, I feel like at the price I would be selling it at, it probably wouldn't be worth the shipping cost to sell it.
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No, it's abuse and completely outside the design parameters for the tool. I'll be sure to avoid purchasing any knives from you.
 
singularity35 said:
The problem I see is that when your knife failed, you make a sweeping conclusion. When Blais' knife perfomed well, its
an.isolated case. Very good deductive powers on.your part.
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I never said that his experience was an isolated case. At best, it's a crap shoot. That's my opinion on the lock. I just don't think it's reliable, and others have had the same experience as I have. So, I'll be sticking to Spyderco's frame locks, caged ball locks, lockbacks and compression locks.
 
FW JSB said:
No, it's abuse and completely outside the design parameters for the tool. I'll be sure to avoid purchasing any knives from you.
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It's clearly out of the design parameters for the Tenacious' liner lock. Many other locks on the market, from Spyderco and other companies, differ on that.
 
I bought my Tenacious specifically to find something egregiously wrong to prove that everything made in China is junk and the liner lock was the first thing I looked at. The lock and everything else about the knife was good and proved my theory wrong.

My earliest experiences with liner locks were the Schrade ClipHanger and two Bokers, a Brend and an Angler in X-15 steel. All three of these were horribly weak and the least bit of back pressure would release the lock. My experiences with Spyderco since then have shown that liner locks can be done correctly to be safe and secure.
 
GronK said:
I bought my Tenacious specifically to find something egregiously wrong to prove that everything made in China is junk and the liner lock was the first thing I looked at. The lock and everything else about the knife was good and proved my theory wrong.

My earliest experiences with liner locks were the Schrade ClipHanger and two Bokers, a Brend and an Angler in X-15 steel. All three of these were horribly weak and the least bit of back pressure would release the lock. My experiences with Spyderco since then have shown that liner locks can be done correctly to be safe and secure.
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My experience with my Tenacious is that everything about the knife is awesome, except for the lock.

I just don't like or trust liner locks anymore.
 
Kwon Kwang said:
My experience with my Tenacious is that everything about the knife is awesome, except for the lock.

I just don't like or trust liner locks anymore.
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Whether you do or do not trust liner locks, that is your opinion but you do bash the Tenacious' lock in each thread that you come upon a mention of it.
 
There are liner locks built tougher than some framelocks or lockbacks. It's more about the knife design than the lock type. Same thing for all knife lock designs. There are plenty of lockbacks that are unsafe. Some however are like bank vaults. The Demko designed lockback seems like a good design in theory but except in custom Demkos every one I have tried has been terrible on opening. My Mackinaw Hunter is atrocious, the Voyager not much better.

Lock type is only one small part of the equation. Engineering and manufacturing are where they live or die. If you don't like liner locks try a Millie for service life, or a Lone Wolf T3, or a Hossum Retribution 1 for brute strength.

Most of the better quality liner locks designed and produced by the better companies are tested to destruction. The frame/liners/grips typically goes before the lock.
 
My persistence is quite a bit smaller but is in the same group. I love it. Yes, I have to sharpen in. A few quick swipes brings it back. The lock is perfectly capable IMO. I bet I could make it fail if I tried but why?

My persistence opens smooth as butter so I'm sure the same system with a longer, heavier blade will be same.
 
I got hooked on Spyderco in October of 2010 when I bought a new Manix2. And that's all it took for me to fall head over heals. Up until then I had primarily been a Benchmade guy. But that Manix2 changed everything for me,

Now three years (and 17 Spydercos) later , I'm a complete addict. Actually , I'm waiting for my brand new Szabo to arrive via UPS today. Can't wait for this beast !

So it's not just coincidence that so many people rave about Spyderco's incredible quality , price and CS.
 
Whatever someone wants to do with their knife is their business, but I'm often left wondering why some people choose to use their knives in ways that certainly seem out of the intended ranges of use? Any tool can break, even high quality tools when being used for their intended task. Case in point, a couple fires back, our crew was tasked to perform vent and ended up breaking an axe and a chainsaw while performing the duty. Both tools were broken while performing exactly what they were built for and both tools were of higher quality than you would expect to find in your specialty hardware store.

I think it's fine to view the "testing" of knives as a hobby, but stabbing/pounding/whacking folders isn't real use for most people. I've been doing outdoor activities for my whole life and have never encountered situations when I had to beat on my knife. Maybe I'm too cheap to see just how much my knife will handle.

I've carried Spydercos more than any other knife since I started carrying knives every day for the past two+ decades and have been very pleased with them overall.
 
I have also had nothing but good experience with Spyderco. Besides Hinderers and Sebenzas, only Spydercos make it into my EDC rotation. Nothing against Kershaw, ZT, and Benchmade as I also own many of their best folders, but the combination of ergonomics and cutting performance of Spydercos win it for me. Spyderco is also the only company that I buy multiples of certain models because I like them so much.
I have a Resilience on order because I want a folder for kitchen duty, and the 4.25" FFG blade comes in handy for such purposes. If the liner lock on it is anything like the two Sage1s that I own, then I should be completely satisfied. I don't spine whack my knives because I consider that abuse. Besides, aren't there plenty of heavy duty fixed blades that can be used for chopping and battoning available from every manufacturer?
It's kinda like trying to pull a heavy load with an expensive sports car instead of a pickup truck and wondering why it failed.
 
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