Spyderco's different serration patterns: Spyder Teeth

[mark greenman]

Here's a pic of the serrations on the E4W SE.

They are definitely wider and shallower than those on the standard E4.

If you are thinking of getting an E4 or D4 Wave in SE or CE, you should know that they are being discontinued (PE will stay). They'll most likely be easy to find for a while yet, but I wouldn't wait too long.

Really?? There discontinuing the SE? Shitake mushrooms! Better start saving for a backup. I'm quite supprised, they seem to sell well on Ebay, and they're so effective. Is this the official word?

 

[JD Spydo]

Really?? There discontinuing the SE? Shitake mushrooms! Better start saving for a backup. I'm quite supprised, they seem to sell well on Ebay, and they're so effective. Is this the official word?

Wow! I'm shocked to hear that myself. For Spyderco to abandon their serrated blades is almost like Michelin not making radial tires
Or Sara Lee to discontinue their cheesecake

With Spyderco being the true top dog in the serrated blade market that just don't seem right . If that's true I'll not only buy up every SE Spyderco I can find but I will also never trade away any of them either.

This world truly is changing for the worse if that were to happen

 

[Josh K]

Really?? There discontinuing the SE? Shitake mushrooms! Better start saving for a backup. I'm quite supprised, they seem to sell well on Ebay, and they're so effective. Is this the official word?

Wow! I'm shocked to hear that myself. For Spyderco to abandon their serrated blades is almost like Michelin not making radial tires
Or Sara Lee to discontinue their cheesecake

With Spyderco being the true top dog in the serrated blade market that just don't seem right . If that's true I'll not only buy up every SE Spyderco I can find but I will also never trade away any of them either.

This world truly is changing for the worse if that were to happen

I read that as they are discontinuing their SE Wave models. Not all SE knives.

 

[Snagblade]

I read that as they are discontinuing their SE Wave models. Not all SE knives.

Agreed.

I think they will abandon the concept of SE blades just before they abandon pocket clips and then the knife industry all together.

They are deep in the teeth market.

 

[Josh K]

Agreed.

I think they will abandon the concept of SE blades just before they abandon pocket clips and then the knife industry all together.

They are deep in the teeth market.

If I had to choose a serration pattern it'd be Spyderco's. I'm not as avid a fan of SE blades as some, but they have their uses.

 

[ctk123]

I've been wanting to try SE, so after reading this thread, I ordered an SE gray FRN Endura 4 waved.

If I like the SE, I am going to get an SE military.

 

[mark greenman]

I read that as they are discontinuing their SE Wave models. Not all SE knives.

I know, thats why I'm so bummed! The wave is the best SE knife in the lineup other than the Cricket, and was the only one that featured these more effective serration scallops. That's why I'm so surprised/dismayed.

 

[Josh K]

I know, thats why I'm so bummed! The wave is the best SE knife in the lineup other than the Cricket, and was the only one that featured these more effective serration scallops. That's why I'm so surprised/dismayed.

They look like the standard pattern to me.

 

[JD Spydo]

Have any of you ever wondered why they never used some of the same serration patterns that they used on their kitchen knives on some of their fixed blades and on some of their utility blades?

Frankly I love the wavy serrations on the models K-04 and K-05 and the older Spyderco bread knife.

Now don't get me wrong because I truly like the spiky serrations as well. But I would sure love the new Temperance model with those same wavy serrations.

 

[mark greenman]

They look like the standard pattern to me.

From the front they look the same, but from behind, they're distinctly wider and shallower.

Here's a pic from Tom Berry's store, shows them pretty

Notice how their wider, and the "spikes" less pointy and pronounced?

Might not look like much, but it makes a HUGE difference in terms of snagging, which is the bane of all SE knives. These cut very smoothly and reliably through pretty much anything except wood, where PE is obviously the choice.

 

[Josh K]

^ Right, but that's how all the SE Spyderco's I've seen looked on the other side.

 

[mark greenman]

I'm sure they look very similar, but, if you were to hold both in your hand and inspect them, you'd find that the "peeks and valleys" of the spikes and scallops are much closer, and the scallops wider, than on other spyderco knives.

Trust me, I've spent a while comparing them in person, and there is a subtle difference in appearance, and a glaringly obvious difference in performance.

 

[jill jackson]

I would sure appreciate more feedback about some of the older serrated Spyders. Also I was wanting to know what some of you thought about the serrated Spyderco kitchen knives. Great Posts!! I think it's a subject that we've truly not given enough attention to.

Here's a ATS-55 Civilian (picture is big sorry) It was purchased by my Dad in about 1996-97

Older Military

 

[JD Spydo]

Great pics as usual Jill I really love the Golden CO Spyders especially out of that 440V era. You can see the distinct differences in serration patterns between the GOLDEN CO Spyders and the Seki Spyders of the late 90s era.

Late last night I got an idea I would like to put up for thought. For all of you who like Spyderco's serrated blades as I do. And I mean just about every pattern that they have put forth up till now. What would you all think about the possibility of a double bladed serrated knife.

For instance I was thinking like in the terms of a double bladed Mariner i.e. with one blade with Spiky Seki serrations and the other blade with wavy Spyderco kitchen knife serrations. Because truly folks I did encounter a job 2 summers ago where I could have used such a beast.

I was skining a snapping turtle and I'm here to tell you that was one extremely tough test even for my best Spyders. I did a lot of the job with my fully serration Temperance I. Which did a lot to separated that armour plated shell out of hell Also I've chatted with one guy in the fishing industry that agreed that it could be a great tool.

 

[Pete1977]

I have found that the serrations on the byrd meadowlark and cara cara rescues (or the spyderco dodo) are the most versatile yet. they are shallow, not as pointy or toothy as the more common serrations spyderco uses. they cut much better than deeper toothier serrated edges and plain edges as well. I have cut 1.5 inch poly rope, 2 inch poly/dacron rope, plastic bottles, stripped wire, cut rags and cloth, cut twine, and even whittled points onto pine shingles (used for plugging leaks in barges.) the serrations on the cara cara rescue do everything a plain edge can do as well as outperform almost every other type of serration I have used.

this style of serration is more like those found on the older spyderco models (my executive and an old harpy for example) which I prefer to the current style. I have used several different spyderco knives working in the maritime and commercial fishing industries and have often thought about serration patterns and the variations in grinds that spyderco offers.

on my next trip on the tug I will try to bring another serrated knife (preferably similar to the meadowlark rescue, most likely I will try to buy a rescue junior while I am off) with an unused factory edge and put it side by side with the meadowlark rescue Sal sent (also unused) for the 21 days. If I get a chance I will post a detailed comparison in the reviews and testing subforum.

pete

 

[JD Spydo]

Pete not only are the serrations on the Golden Colorado made Dodo model somewhat different than the patterns on many other Spyders there is another factory involved. The reverse S configuration of the blade makes in a fairly aggressive cutter to begin with. About three summers ago I carried an SE Dodo for a short time before I traded it ( regret, regret ) and I noticed just how aggressive it was for as short as the blade was.

I truly cherish my remaining PE blue Dodo but I sure wish I had my SE version back. It's on a very long list of Spyders I must get back .

I was also told that the original Meerkat model in SE was quite an aggressive little cutter for it's size. Even the SE Cricket is absolutely surprising at how good it cuts.

 

[Andre]

Serrations on the Calypso Jr series were also exceptional.

 

[JD Spydo]

Serrations on the Calypso Jr series were also exceptional.

I'll second that Andre But don't stop there because there are many small Spyders that are truly wicked with serrations. My Carbon Fiber Cricket SE is quite capable of some big cutting chores for a little blade.

Even the SE blade on the Dyad Jr or Mini Micarta Dyad is like a little alligator.

Spyder has done a sterling job with their small blades and their small SE blades are unequaled.