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My experience is probably not typical either.. I come from Arizona, where nobody even knows what rust is, but where the fine dust gets into EVERYTHING, I grew up hating with a passion anything to do with oil or grease, because I knew it would pretty quickly turn into this horrible dried out filthy mess, bicycles would seize up if not washed all the time. Now living in southern KY, I'm very very very familiar with rust I learned pretty fast that remoil needed to be applied every few days to prevent rusting. So my requirements so to speak are probably not typical.
 
Spyderco (Sal) has stated previously that they have at least a hundred potential knives in the design, research and development phase.

I would rather that they focus on working on those than getting involved in their own oil and lubrication products.

(If they want to tell us which of these products they use, that is fine too.)

There are already plenty of these oil and lubrication products available for those that want to research them and experiment to find out which ones will work best for their needs.
 
i agree. sal is the kind of guy that wouldnt just phone it in, hed want to bring something to market he personally researched.

rem oil is more than mineral oil. it dries and leaves a nice teflon film. i use it on my micro tech otf knives.

i use frog lube on knife steel to prevent rust (its usda certfied food grade) on knives i may use for food prep.

on mechanisms i use tetra grease, its a flouro polymer based grease that smells pretty good.

stuff like slip2000 is awesome but $$$$ i substitute a tub of white lithium axle grease and a large can of teflon plus remoil and then mix 3 parts remoil 1 part coastal grease.. slick stuff, smells terrible.

plastilube is good you can get it at your local bmw dealer.

then for magazines i use graphite dry lube, messy but effective. could be good for dusty places.
 
Dredsen said:
i agree. sal is the kind of guy that wouldnt just phone it in, hed want to bring something to market he personally researched.

rem oil is more than mineral oil. it dries and leaves a nice teflon film. i use it on my micro tech otf knives.

i use frog lube on knife steel to prevent rust (its usda certfied food grade) on knives i may use for food prep.

on mechanisms i use tetra grease, its a flouro polymer based grease that smells pretty good.

stuff like slip2000 is awesome but $$$$ i substitute a tub of white lithium axle grease and a large can of teflon plus remoil and then mix 3 parts remoil 1 part coastal grease.. slick stuff, smells terrible.

plastilube is good you can get it at your local bmw dealer.

then for magazines i use graphite dry lube, messy but effective. could be good for dusty places.
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Free-floating teflon doesn't have a great reputation. It drying is the problem, you're left with no corrosion resistance, and you're relying on whatever teflon is deposited, which doesn't do well under pressure believe it or not
 
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i think most of us would buy spyderco oil,i no i would' and it would go hand in hand just like there sharpmaker! much needed tools of the trade,hell why not' the other big name knife makers do it,i hope we see it on the shelf's one day soon!it would definitely be a best seller .;)
 
I have used Quantum reel oil for a few years now and love it. The needle like applicator is is perfect for dripping oil into the pivot without making a mess and it fits right into the tip down clip screw holes at the pivot.

 
As is usually the case, when the subject of lubrication comes up in a forum there is a ton of responses and each of them recommend their favorite oil/grease/nose lube/ear wax. I also have a few favorites but I honestly cannot see a penny's worth of difference between any of those lubes when it comes to a simple mechanism like a folding knife.**

(**At this point someone will post, "Have you ever tried _____? You really should because it's better than anything."..........................................................................................Marketing strikes again.)
 
I used to use fluid film because it is food grade, but it attracted too much dirt, switched to 3in1, but it is way to light. After I watched the vid of TheApostleP I switched to hobbes #9 and it is just perfect, is has just the right balance between fluidity and viscosity
 
Lee48 said:
As is usually the case, when the subject of lubrication comes up in a forum there is a ton of responses and each of them recommend their favorite oil/grease/nose lube/ear wax. I also have a few favorites but I honestly cannot see a penny's worth of difference between any of those lubes when it comes to a simple mechanism like a folding knife.**

(**At this point someone will post, "Have you ever tried _____? You really should because it's better than anything."..........................................................................................Marketing strikes again.)
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While I agree the question wasn't "what should I use on my knife" saying there is no difference because your requirements don't need anything more than a basic oil is a bit like saying 420hc is all anyone needs because it works for you
 
SBaker34 said:
While I agree the question wasn't "what should I use on my knife" saying there is no difference because your requirements don't need anything more than a basic oil is a bit like saying 420hc is all anyone needs because it works for you
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I know. That was my point. You asked about a possible future Spyderco brand lube but what you got was a lot of opinions on favorite lubes. It's what always happens.
 
Here ya' go: LOL

It looks like shooters may have been duped. Or maybe not–it depends who you ask. FIREClean is a gun lubricant that has recently made a splash in the gun world. Their website claims it cleans deeply, repels carbon, and lubricates. Made in USA, odorless, non-toxic. What’s not to like? I talked with the FIREClean guy at the 2015 SHOT Show Range Day and even got a sample. I added it to my list of SHOT products to report about here on AllOutdoor, but for some reason I never did. There was something in the back of my mind that gave me pause. So, I wrote about other stuff and still haven’t managed to test the sample. Recently, some have claimed that FIREClean is nothing more than canola vegetable oil. Vegetable oil that may work great on guns, but that would make FIREClean essentially the exact same thing you buy for scorching up some venison in the frying pan, except it costs a whole lot more than a jug of Crisco oil. On September 12, an article was published detailing the claims and ultimately the results of an infrared spectroscopy test of FIREClean and two types of Crisco brand cooking oil. What did the tests show? FireClean is probably a modern unsaturated vegetable oil virtually the same as many oils used for cooking. Further, the professor who conducted the test (who apparently holds a Ph.D. in organic chemistry) said this: “I don’t see any sign of other additives such as antioxidants or corrosion inhibitors. Since the unsaturation in these oils, especially linoleate residues, can lead to their oligomerization with exposure to oxygen and light, use on weapons could lead to formation of solid residues (gum) with time. The more UV and oxygen, the more the oil will degrade.” Anyone who has been around guns very much knows that oils that turn gummy are strictly NG. I’m talking about 3-in-1 and other low-cost oils that leave “varnish” and gum after they’ve been on a gun for some time. This can cause guns to fail to operate, and I personally have repaired a shotgun whose hammer was broken due to this kind of buildup. Therefore, one must conclude that FIREClean is not a good product to have in your gun’s internal workings. But neither is Crisco oil, so nix the thought of cooking-oil gun care. It may work well in the short term, but nobody–and I mean nobody–wants to pick up a gun in time of need and find it gummed up and inoperable. In addition to the analysis, a look at the patent shows that it’s for using vegetable oil to lubricate guns. FIREClean has since posted a response on their Facebook page. It’s rather long-winded, and although it uses a number of negative adjectives for articles like the one you’re currently reading, nowhere does it deny that FIREClean is, in fact, common Canola oil. As for me, I’m not planning to use FIREClean on my guns, but I’m not going to use cooking oil, either. I’ve seen the residue and gunk that can form on a pot, pan, or cooking utensil that’s been oiled with vegetable oil and stored, and I don’t want some of that on my firearms. Do what you like, but knowledge is power. And now you have the knowledge to make an informed decision about whether to use that FIREClean on your guns–or just dump it in a skillet and scorch up some pork chops for supper.
 
ichor said:
Here ya' go: LOL

It looks like shooters may have been duped. Or maybe not–it depends who you ask. FIREClean is a gun lubricant that has recently made a splash in the gun world. Their website claims it cleans deeply, repels carbon, and lubricates. Made in USA, odorless, non-toxic. What’s not to like? I talked with the FIREClean guy at the 2015 SHOT Show Range Day and even got a sample. I added it to my list of SHOT products to report about here on AllOutdoor, but for some reason I never did. There was something in the back of my mind that gave me pause. So, I wrote about other stuff and still haven’t managed to test the sample. Recently, some have claimed that FIREClean is nothing more than canola vegetable oil. Vegetable oil that may work great on guns, but that would make FIREClean essentially the exact same thing you buy for scorching up some venison in the frying pan, except it costs a whole lot more than a jug of Crisco oil. On September 12, an article was published detailing the claims and ultimately the results of an infrared spectroscopy test of FIREClean and two types of Crisco brand cooking oil. What did the tests show? FireClean is probably a modern unsaturated vegetable oil virtually the same as many oils used for cooking. Further, the professor who conducted the test (who apparently holds a Ph.D. in organic chemistry) said this: “I don’t see any sign of other additives such as antioxidants or corrosion inhibitors. Since the unsaturation in these oils, especially linoleate residues, can lead to their oligomerization with exposure to oxygen and light, use on weapons could lead to formation of solid residues (gum) with time. The more UV and oxygen, the more the oil will degrade.” Anyone who has been around guns very much knows that oils that turn gummy are strictly NG. I’m talking about 3-in-1 and other low-cost oils that leave “varnish” and gum after they’ve been on a gun for some time. This can cause guns to fail to operate, and I personally have repaired a shotgun whose hammer was broken due to this kind of buildup. Therefore, one must conclude that FIREClean is not a good product to have in your gun’s internal workings. But neither is Crisco oil, so nix the thought of cooking-oil gun care. It may work well in the short term, but nobody–and I mean nobody–wants to pick up a gun in time of need and find it gummed up and inoperable. In addition to the analysis, a look at the patent shows that it’s for using vegetable oil to lubricate guns. FIREClean has since posted a response on their Facebook page. It’s rather long-winded, and although it uses a number of negative adjectives for articles like the one you’re currently reading, nowhere does it deny that FIREClean is, in fact, common Canola oil. As for me, I’m not planning to use FIREClean on my guns, but I’m not going to use cooking oil, either. I’ve seen the residue and gunk that can form on a pot, pan, or cooking utensil that’s been oiled with vegetable oil and stored, and I don’t want some of that on my firearms. Do what you like, but knowledge is power. And now you have the knowledge to make an informed decision about whether to use that FIREClean on your guns–or just dump it in a skillet and scorch up some pork chops for supper.
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Not really sure how that's relevant here other than one guy said he liked it? O.o
 
Me thinks that many of us over think lubrication for our precious folding knives. I realize that in a self defense situation we can flick them open fast. These are not formula 1 engines running at 8,000 rpm. Occasionally clean the pivot, apply a light lubricant and move on.
 
coop1957 said:
Me thinks that many of us over think lubrication for our precious folding knives. I realize that in a self defense situation we can flick them open fast. These are not formula 1 engines running at 8,000 rpm. Occasionally clean the pivot, apply a light lubricant and move on.
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I don't think its so much that you need extreme temperature stability and wear additives so much as higher end lubricants that resist dirt and hardening are quite convenient.
 
I've tried a number of the specialty lubes and been disappointed. I went back to Breakfree CLP and it works as well or better than anything else I've tried. That said, with 1 winner and 4 loosers, I'm happy they stick to knives and leave lube to a company that specializes in it.

EL
 
For years Benchmade and a couple of other great knife companys used to sell "Militec" synthetic oil at their booths at knife and gun shows. I've said for years that if I find anything that works better than "Militec" I will immediately switch to using their product. I've used Break Free, Tuff Glide, Eze-Ox and other firearm and gun oils with decent results.

Now I know that with all of this new nanotechnology that there are most certainly new lubrication products>> again when someone convinces me that they have a product that's better than Militec I'll immediatelyl start to use it.

As far as Spyderco coming out with their own marketing of an ideal lubricating oil>> personally I don't think it's a good idea at all. Because Spyderco is great at producing top notch knives and super high quality sharpening equipment. I want them to continue with what they are good at. But I'm all ears if anyone is for sure about any product that has superior lubricity to my favorite lube MILITEC.
 
JD Spydo said:
As far as Spyderco coming out with their own marketing of an ideal lubricating oil>> personally I don't think it's a good idea at all. Because Spyderco is great at producing top notch knives and super high quality sharpening equipment. I want them to continue with what they are good at.
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So way back, when Spyderco only made knife sharpeners, you wouldn't have thought it was a good idea they get into making knives? ;)
 
Militec is what Spyderco sells and uses at the factory store in Boulder, worked a charm on my Domino.
 
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