Spydie Gayle Bradley vs. ZT 0550 or 0560--discuss

I have the GB, a 0551, and a 0560. As far as steel, the M4 is outstanding. Better steel overall than ELMAX if you ask me, but not nearly as rust proof. Elmax is highly rust proof, but M4 is only a bit too high in carbon content to be considered stainless. I like in a fairly dry climate and don't give any care to the GB's blade. No patina or rust ever. You'll find plenty of posts from people who actually live in humid climates who say the GB needs very little care. Apply a little gun oil, mineral oil, Fluid Film, Tuff Glide, coconut oil, etc, etc every few weeks or so and it will be just fine. Just because it's not stainless doesn't mean it will rust easily. It will stay just fine with a tiny bit of care. M4 is one of my favorite steel and it's totally worth it. Better than Elmax in every other way IMHO.

The GB is the perfect blend of a knife that's very EDC friendly and also extremely heavy duty that doesn't have a blade that's too thick. It's thick enough, but still does what I knife is supposed to - it uses that sharp as hell M4 to slice very well. I consider the frame of the GB as tough as anything. The steel liners are crazy thick and there is just a tiny relief cutout. When you consider the fact that the GB is still thicker at the relief cutout than most Ti frame locks, including 550/560's, it is MUCH stronger. It's not only thicker, but the steel is also much stronger at that thickness. I trust the lockup of the GB more-so than any one of my frame locks. When you hear it click open with authority, you'll understand. The GB has a bit more simple and elegant design, so it's probably easier to make it look perfect, but I honestly think the fit and finish is a little better than the 550 and 560. They're still great but the GB is right there with them, if not better. They all have their pros and cons, mostly pros in both cases, and they're just different. I love all three of them for different reasons, which is why I have all three. They're all some of the best knives you can get in their price categories (although the GB is in a much lower price category and is better to me personally than even some $300+ knives). I can justify having all three, but I have to say that the GB is one of the last knives I'd ever get rid of. Especially at the amazing price point. I carry the GB more than any of my ZT's (although I love the 560 just about as much and carry it a lot too. I also like my orange scaled 551 a lot too) and probably as much as any of my Chris Reeve knives. I do love the ZT's but I just can't get over how great the Gayle is for the price. It's just such a good EDC for any occasion too. Looks so nice and sheeple friendly. I'd recommend it anyone. Just a great, great knife. I could make just as much of a case for the 560 but the Gayle is a knife I genuinely like just as much and it's more than $100 less.

Get it, it's that great feeling of quality and usefulness in your hand that makes you almost as excited as a new Sebenza, for 1/3 the price. :)
 
Yeah, you have to kind of take care of the blade steel to prevent rust, but get real... anyone posting on a knife forum probably fondles and coddles all of their knives enough that a little oiling here and there isn't a big deal.

Exactly. You said it brother! :)

The lock strength on the GB is ridiculous as well. The lockbar is reallly thick for a liner lock, and the cut out (you know, where the bar bends) is really shallow, making the bar far tougher than your normal liner lock. In fact the lockbar on the GB may be thicker at the cut out than the cut out on any of my ZTs...

Yes, easily thicker. And that's STEEL, which is a lot stronger than Titanium. I love the look, feel, and function of a good framelock. The majority of my knives are frame locks. However, I am under no illusion that a strong, thick liner lock like the GB isn't much stronger than most of them frame locks.
 
Okay guys,

Thanks all for the additional input on this thread. I've ordered the GB!

Should be with me on Tuesday (hopefully!)

Ben
 
Nice summary Bronco.

Thanks raym0016, I agree with you(!) There was a previous thread some weeks ago with someone seriously considering going exclusively Spydies. I have some sympathy with that as I'm not sure that I can afford/get hold of Hinderers and Sebenzas.

The advantage of that approach is a consistency of deployment. We know the benefits of this with firearms but we seem to take a different view with folders....

I know that Spydies take the majority of my knife pocket time...

Ben
 
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I noticed that some of the spydie hole is covered on the GB. Can you still flick it open like a para2 or is a manual open the only option?
 
I noticed that some of the spydie hole is covered on the GB. Can you still flick it open like a para2 or is a manual open the only option?

my problem with the GB was the opposite, the liner lock cut out is too shallow for my liking. Ate my thumb up unlocking it. Though I have to admit I LOVE the 0560 as well so a little bias involved I suppose.
 
I wanted to like the GB and did like certain things about it, especially the blade, but hated the way part of the hole was covered up and how sharp the edges of the hole were. I know I probably could've modified it but didn't want to alter the knife. Opening and closing a knife one-handed and comfortably is important to me and both the 0561 and the 0550 do that for me. They both flip right open without much effort at all and they're really easy to close one-handed. Like so many have already mentioned, they're obviously way different knives. That being said, I do love many other Spydercos. I think the Manix 2 XL is closer to the tanks that the 0550 and 0561 are.
 
The GB at 1/2 the price of the 560 is a great deal. The best production knife for the dollar IMO
 
my problem with the GB was the opposite, the liner lock cut out is too shallow for my liking. Ate my thumb up unlocking it. Though I have to admit I LOVE the 0560 as well so a little bias involved I suppose.

Yeah, that too. My GB was difficult to close.
 
Just chiming in, for those who are concerned about the thinness of the edge on the GB. I worked on a farm doing things I shouldn't with a folder and the GB took it in stride and begged for more. I now work construction and the GB takes that abuse just fine. IIRC, the guys who compete in Bladesports use M4 because of it's toughness and edge retention at a higher hardness than other steels.

Going off that, M4 is my favorite steel but I recently picked up a custom in S690 (BU's version of M4). Had something like 7 knives in M4 at one point or another. It's good stuff and if "rusting" (more like light corrosion) is a concern, nothing Tufglide can't take care of. Or even chapstick for crying out loud.
 
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