Spydie Police Model: Opinions, Please

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The recent thread by Fireprez has somewhat re-ignited my interest in this knife. Specifically, the stainless-handle model with ATS-55, hollow and saber-ground blade, full serrations.

Does anyone here favor the Police or use one hard? How does it hold up?

Also, I remember many months back someone mentioned that holding the Police by the blade hole and snapping the handle down and open can damage the knife. Is this true? Not that I really open my knives that way, but I'm interested in learning of its overall durability as well as cutting ability.
Jim
 
I have one of the older non-coated aluminum models with a G-2, fully serrated, blade. (It's also one of the pieces that escaped the factory w/o the "Police" logo.) The inevitable handle scratches are easily removed w/Scotch Brite pads. (Thanks again for that tip, Sal.) Lock-up is nice & tight despite the fact that I use the "Spydie drop" method of opening it quite a bit. IMO, it's a classic & belongs in every Spyderco collection.

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I have an old all-steel version that I have used hard and I have had no problems with it. As a matter of fact, it was my first Spydie. I have "flicked" it many, many times with no apparent damage and used it hard. My only reservation about my plain edged model is that the blade is a bit narrow for a utility folder, therefore lacking belly, but it would make one wicked defense knife.

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Walk in the Light,
Hugh


 
James, stop by the shop some day (when I get the new place open) and you can look at my old square side police model. I got it used about 4 years ago and I use the "Spyder drop" all the time. That will give you a pretty good idea of what to expect.

The serrations have been worn down so much that it is now a "wavy edge" but the lockup and action are fine.


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Dennis Wright
Wright Knife & Sporting Goods
(Buy a knife...confuse a liberal)
La Mesa, CA
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I think I'm responsible for the concern over drop-opening the heavier Spydies. I'd seen a Mariner and a Police that sheared their locking bars off and thought that this was the cause. Sal said that it was more likely due to flicking the knives open inertially - he says they do discourage this because great force is required to overcome the lockback tension, but they don't discourage the drop method.

It's an excellent opening method, too. Very fast
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As a utility knife the Police has a few drawbacks. It has very little belly and a very shallow hollow grind. Sal explained that this was because a straight edge was preferred for one specific task - seatbelt cutting. The Police grew out os an LEO request for "Mariner with a tip." The tip it got is needle-like and can take about a 1.5" false edge if you like, covered by the handle. It's a bit brittle, as slim tips will be.

The steel-handled model is notoriously heavy, over 5oz. It's also slippery. The titanium, uncoated aluminum, and TufRam-coated aluminum models all improve weight, but are just as slick (and all are hard to find). The new G-10 model is the lightest ever (3.3oz) and pleasantly grippy - but I do find its light weight makes "drop" opening a bit trickier. It also sports a full flat grind on the newer versions, much better cutting geometry but perhaps a bit weaker.

Old Police models are in G-2 (later GIN-1), which is tough, has good corrosion resistance, easy resharpening, and mediocre edge-holding. Titanium models have ATS-34 blades - better edge-holding but corrode more easily and are substantially harder to sharpen, as well as a bit brittle. All new models (steel and G-10) have ATS-55 blades, a bit easier to sharpen than ATS-34 but roughly similar.

It is a classic design and still a solid performer. For utility I'd definitely favor a Military or Calypso due to their better blade shapes and steels. I don't feel the Police is a good defensive knife because it has very little guard, so a thrust into hard material carries substantial risk of sliding the hand onto the blade. For pure slashing, the Civilian is a much better alternative. What does the Police have going for it? It's slim, it's comfortable, and it's time-tested. I own two (Ti and G-10), but they don't get as much pocket time as the Civilian, Military, or AFCK.

-Drew
 
I prefer the g-10 version. The stainless handles can get pretty slick under hard use. I ubderstand that checkering or engraving can help this though.

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-Dennis-


 
Checkering indeed Shootist. Most of my steel handled Spydies are stored away save the Hunter/ Pro Venator/ Spur models which have rubber inserts. They are OK for normal use but the others are just to slippery to work hard and extensive with. Rubber/ friction type tapes do improve the grip capabilities but you' ll soon find that they can snag and soon after wear out your pocket linings rather quickly. I' ve had several micarta and G10 scales checkered from the services of:

CHECKERMARX@compuserve.com (JP Marx)of Ferndale. WA.

Excellent work, good turnaround time, and a fair price!(shhh!)

What a great difference in grip and quick draw capabilities!

Run a search under checkering and you' ll find a few interesting threads.

L8r,
Nakano

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"To earn a million is easy, a real friend is not."
 
Thanks for the replies!

My main interest in the Police is less as a general utility and for as a special carry. In that case the lack of belly in the blade is okay. Also, the durability issue has to do with the fact I don't currently own any stainless steel-handled knives and wasn't sure about the strength at pivot/lock area. The replies seemed to help answer these questions.
Dennis, I'll come by sometime to check out the new store!
Jim
 
Bug Sal for a new release of titanium scaled ATS-34 or CPM 440V Police models.
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The Police is one of my regular carry pieces. It packs a lot of blade into a slim package. I ended up putting skateboard tap on mine and it is just as grippy or more so than any G-10 scaled folder, but kept its slim profile. Nice for me as I carry it ITWB. Durability on all mine have been great and its safe to say that they've been used hard.

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