spydies woes.....heed my advice!

bdws1975

bdws1975

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Hi all,

I just got two endura 4's. One with the emerson wave and the other combo edge vg-10.

I decided to swap the blades, just for the heck of it.

WARNING: don't take apart an endura unless you know exactly what you're doing.

I got them apart and then proceeded to spend 2 hours skinning my knuckles, bruising my fingers and cussing up a storm trying to get them back together.

The tension on the lock bar is SO tight that it's a pain in the a&^ to get back together.

I've learned my lesson: NEVER again will I take apart a spyderco....:)

FYI: the blades are NOT exactly interchangeable. The combo edge, non waved endura blade sits a bit high in the handle of the waved handle.

Lesson learned.

Brett
 
Friends don't let friends take apart knives. :D


Although it is pretty hard to conceive of it ever being an issue; the backlocks are usually hand fitted (in a manner of speaking) for each knife, so swapping blades could run the risk of lessening the full alignment and safety of the lockup.
 
zenheretic said:
Friends don't let friends take apart knives. :D


Although it is pretty hard to conceive of it ever being an issue; the backlocks are usually hand fitted (in a manner of speaking) for each knife, so swapping blades could run the risk of lessening the full alignment and safety of the lockup.
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plus you have to promise god your first born just to get them back together....:p

Don't worry, I won't do THAT again....


LOL!

brett
 
A couple fellow knuts have posted "how to" guides here and over on Spyderco.com so you might save a bruised knuckle or two in the future. ;)
 
zenheretic said:
A couple fellow knuts have posted "how to" guides here and over on Spyderco.com so you might save a bruised knuckle or two in the future. ;)
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I kind of figured that, but I'm a 'do it myself' guy. Stupid, huh?


I'm gonna go check those out though.

thanks man!
brett
 
oh, and by the way, i LOVE my new enduras. Spyderco delica was the first real pocket knife I ever bought back in 93 o4 94. They are simply great knives.

Brett
 
I've taken apart my Delica (same as Endura except for size), and I haven't had a problem since... I guess after the 2nd or 3rd time. By then, I knew exactly what I had to do. I just do the lock last now; it isn't too hard for me at least.

However, I think next time I get sand in mine, I'll just send it to Golden to have it serviced. I have some vertical play in my knife now, but I never really checked prior to doing service on the knife, so I can't tell if that slight, slight vertical play was always there, or if I introduced it.

Oh, and be sure you got the nipples of the backspacers into the holes in the liners, or else you could develop some problems. This is the reason I do the lock last.
 
that's EXACTLY what I did. I finally realized that the 'nipples' would not go back in unless they are done first. I did manage to bend up the pb bushings a it, but nothing big. they're good now.

brett
THG said:
I've taken apart my Delica (same as Endura except for size), and I haven't had a problem since... I guess after the 2nd or 3rd time. By then, I knew exactly what I had to do. I just do the lock last now; it isn't too hard for me at least.

However, I think next time I get sand in mine, I'll just send it to Golden to have it serviced. I have some vertical play in my knife now, but I never really checked prior to doing service on the knife, so I can't tell if that slight, slight vertical play was always there, or if I introduced it.

Oh, and be sure you got the nipples of the backspacers into the holes in the liners, or else you could develop some problems. This is the reason I do the lock last.
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Hi Bdws,

Sorry for your negative experience.

We don't recommend taking apart our knives. They are put together by highly skilled knifemakers with many years of experience. We made some of them with screw construction because our demanding customers kept requesting the feature, but it is far more difficult than one might imagine going in.

sal
 
Sal,

please don't misunderstand me! I was mainly picking on myself in my op. I love these knives and it was my dumb fault for taking it apart.

I'm sorry if I appeared to be bitching. i'm not!

Thanks for making wonderful products.

Sincerely,
Brett
Sal Glesser said:
Hi Bdws,

Sorry for your negative experience.

We don't recommend taking apart our knives. They are put together by highly skilled knifemakers with many years of experience. We made some of them with screw construction because our demanding customers kept requesting the feature, but it is far more difficult than one might imagine going in.

sal
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If you are going to swap blades and want solid lock up you must the lock bars as well.
 
If you swap parts, make sure to swap all of the locking parts. Ie lockbar etc. I did a swap with a SE Fg Delica with my d4 wave. First swap I just did the blades and the d4w locked fine but the SE lock wasn't right. I went ahead and swaped out lock bars and rest of the internals and the locking problem went away. Hope this can help you some. :thumbup:
 
krazichinaman said:
If you swap parts, make sure to swap all of the locking parts. Ie lockbar etc. I did a swap with a SE Fg Delica with my d4 wave. First swap I just did the blades and the d4w locked fine but the SE lock wasn't right. I went ahead and swaped out lock bars and rest of the internals and the locking problem went away. Hope this can help you some. :thumbup:
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thank you, that's good advice. I might try it.

Brett
 
bdws1975 said:
thank you, that's good advice. I might try it.

Brett
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As the others have mentioned also, make sure to put together the handels before you mess with the lock. That way you don't damage the nipples on the FRN backspacer from the pressure of the lock. :thumbup:
 
I had trouble till I figured out a trick.

I put it all together. Pivot, blade, spacer and all MINUS the spring and lock bar.
While the blade is open, hold it in your left hand with the blade facing away and the open back (minus the lock) facing you. First, slide the spring in from the back. Then I push the lock bar in from the back. Hold it with my right thumb and slide the pivot screw for the lock bar in with my other hand. Tighten the screw for the pivot and voila. The knife will be open and locked when done. Be careful, but if you do it right the blade, if it starts to close with catch the kicker on your finger, just like you closing it.

Easy as pie.
 
krazichinaman said:
As the others have mentioned also, make sure to put together the handels before you mess with the lock. That way you don't damage the nipples on the FRN backspacer from the pressure of the lock. :thumbup:
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I recommend getting the blade and handles in first, then sliding the lock in last. It really isn't that hard. Some people prefer doing the blade last, but I find it to be a pain in the ass because you have to carefully put washers in, make sure not to move them while putting more stuff on top of it, push the pin in... blah...
 
THG said:
I recommend getting the blade and handles in first, then sliding the lock in last. It really isn't that hard. Some people prefer doing the blade last, but I find it to be a pain in the ass because you have to carefully put washers in, make sure not to move them while putting more stuff on top of it, push the pin in... blah...
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I really think putting the lock in LAST is the way to go. I, like you, couldn't get the darn washers in place when trying to get the blade in last.

Fun stuff!

Brett
 
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