Stack a billet

SBuzek

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I want to do my first billet of random pattern damacus.I ave been welding cable and having good results so gonna try the real stuff. I need to order some 15n20 from Kelly but I have some of Aldo's 1084 in 1/4".
So how would I stack up my first billet.
Thanks
Stan
 
1084/15N20/1084/15N20/1084/15N20/1084
That is a seven layer billet. Grind the mating surfaces clean and stack. Clamp in the vise and weld the stack together on the ends and in two-three places along the sides. You can either use a longer piece for the center 1084 layer, or weld on a re-bar handle. continue as you did with cable from there.
Stacy
 
Make sure you have the thicker on outside of the billet. You will end up with an odd number of layers,1084-15n20-1084-15n20-1084
 
Thanks Guys
Thats what I figured but didn't know with the 1084 being so much thicker than the 15n20 if I need to double up on it.
Stan
 
Stan
Nope really not necessary.
My 15n20 is significantly thinner than my 1084 but I do not double my 15n20 and I believe most do not either.
Chris
 
I do as Stacy indicated, with a couple of exceptions. I do not grind off the mill scale, and if you do, I would encourage you to ensure the grind marks run side to side and NOT lengthwise. Secondly I usually discourage welding the end of facing away from the handle. Doing this will often produce inclusions because the billet expands, where as the tack weld doesn't, and the individual layers will sometimes "bow". If you couple this with lengthwise grinding marks on the materials, its almost a sure bet that you'll get inclusions.
I also discourage folks from hot cutting billets and folding them....draw the billet out, grind both faces clean (I use a 7" angle grinder), then cut the billet into equal lengths and re-stack it. Again, with the grind marks running side to side, with a slight crown (scarf).

Materials wise, I use 1/8" 1080, and .060-.070" 15N20. The reason is: Because of the nickel content, 15N20 does not compress as readily as 1080, and I like to have the finished pattern come out with as equal thickness layers as possible (unless I desire something different). Generally with the sizes I indicated, at around 300 layers, everything comes out looking equal thickness.
 
Thanks for the replys.Got 15n20 ordered and gonna give it a shot.
Stan
 
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