Stacked leather Bucks

I like both of them Haebbie, and I actually like the stacked leather 119 from 2008. I like the old style hand guard. Mine came with a distressed brown leather sheath. As for the blade, it is just like any other newer 119, so I guess if someone doesn't like it, they wouldn't like any newer 119. Having said that, there is a lot to like about the older fixed blade knives. I just really like the LE stacked leather 119. I wish they had done a series of them with the 102, 105, and 121.
 
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Haebbie said:
Here are the knives with the sheaths.
By the way: the LE is a factory blem.
May be that it is assorted because of
the thin handle.Haebbie
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I personally love BOTH your knives. I especially like the one with the bone spacers in the handle. I had three, down to two now, none were FB's and all have/had the thin guard so I seriously doubt that's the reason for your's being marked as a blem.
 
I think he meant the thin handle, like he said.

I wonder how things like that happen?

Interesting piece anyway. Quite unusual.

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Stacked leather is good. But I like more stacked birch bark.
It is easier to handle and it is great to grab.

The shown knife I made for Joe and he used it for hunting.
I started to make a 119 with birch bark, but the blade has
cracks. So I stopped the project. First I need a new blade blank.

Haebbie


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Nice knife, Haeb......blend of Northern European and Oriental styles.

But......back to 119s and a statement from Mike......

Mike Kerins said:
I like both of them Haebbie, and I actually like the stacked leather 119 from 2008....As for the blade, it is just like any other newer 119, so I guess if someone doesn't like it, they wouldn't like any newer 119.
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Do you really think so? Carefully compare these two blade examples to the stacked leather 119 from 2008.


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As you can see, the blood groove is measurably thinner on the stacked leather knife blade. It's almost toy-like......similar to something one would see on a toy knife or a fake. There has definitely been some variation in the blood grooves since 2005.
 
Seems to me that different folks have different likes and dislikes. That doesn't mean one is right and the other wrong. Unless of course, their opinions are different from your's. JMO
 
You missed the point and answered a non-existent question, Kurie.

The statement was, "as for the blade, it is just like any other newer 119..."

The real answer is "No, it is not just like any other newer blade......in fact, there are new blades with blood grooves that are quite different, as shown in the pictures."

That has nothing to do with likes or dislikes, but is instead about a fact.
 
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finally got the 119. being a machinist, i look at things carefully, but it wouldn't take a machinist to see that buck messed up on this knife. the blood groove has OBVIOUS tooling marks. the overall fit and finish of the knife and sheath is A+, except for the blood groove. Really disappointing to hear so many great things about these knives and then have the first one I buy come up short. At least its gonna be a user!

Anyone else here with a 119 have tooling marks in their blood groove?
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Yes, they did.

http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/knife_forum/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=23912
 
The final answer, as ascertained by a couple of machinists, was simply that Buck was leaving the blood grooves unfinished to save costs and keep prices down.

Apparently (because they are more expensive models) at least some of the Cocobola handled 119s and 120s have had the blood grooves polished up to remove the machining marks.

This was clearly not done on the stacked leather model with the bone inserts as can be seen by the pictures, so apparently the final blood groove finishing was sporadic and not always done.

The other issue noted was that some of the unfinished grooves are really hashed up and some are pretty good looking.

This must simply be a factor of employee skill and experience.

If you buy a 119 or 120 made after 2005......ask for a closeup picture of the blood groove if you care about such things.

So, mystery solved and problem solved.

:)
 
BG42EDGE said:
Well, Haeb.......I love the top one.......hate the bottom one.

Very interesting.

The bottom one looks like an economy version of the top one......how about that blood groove??

Looks tiny and out of proportion.

The hand guard looks very cheap as well.

The workmanship on the leather of the top one seems to far exceed that of the bottom one......the handle of the bottom one is all straight with no taper toward the pommel. It's like all the leathers were the same size and no shaping was done.

It's straight and has all the visual appeal of a length of pipe.

I suppose all those factors save time in construction (and money).

I would guess the bottom one was first done to specifications set by a buyer who didn't want to spend much money......Cabela's or L.L. Bean......and then some leftovers of that same model were sold by Buck at a later time unmarked.
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BG42EDGE said:
You missed the point and answered a non-existent question, Kurie.

The statement was, "as for the blade, it is just like any other newer 119..."

The real answer is "No, it is not just like any other newer blade......in fact, there are new blades with blood grooves that are quite different, as shown in the pictures."

That has nothing to do with likes or dislikes, but is instead about a fact.
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I didn't miss any point, I simply didn't make myself clear about what I was referring to. I was referring to your first statement (see above), that's for sure a purely personal and subjective point of view. You hate it, others love it.
 
Well, try to keep up.

As I said before, the current discussion has nothing to do...... has nothing to do with likes or dislikes, except that if one likes his blood grooves well-finished--he should buy with care and get a close-up pic of the one on the knife he's partial to.

What you're referring to in your big red letters was 23 posts ago and two days ago and what you're doing now is just irrelevant bickering.

No place here for that.
 
Oh, I'm not bickering, but I do have a question. Is it no longer relevant because you said it two days ago or because you changed your mind?
 
I didn't change my mind about anything.

And yes, you are bickering.

I will not respond in kind so you might as well give it up.

;)
 
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