Stagehand needs knife

The Mini-Grip comes in plain edge with black coating (and it comes in many other configurations because it is one of the most popular modern production knives I know of). (the Monochrome you get in black only by buying the half-serrated).

If you can afford the Grip then you won't be sorry.

Hang on to your wallet, here is the Doug Ritter edition of the Mini-Grip (I have the full-size version of this knife, S30V blade steel (there is also a M-2 steel blade version): http://www.aeromedix.com/index.php?...1017470d2334e63b7ea77&action=sku&sku=bmbtmini

Best,

oregon
 
alright thanks to all of your advice I have settled on the Mini-Grip MDP plain blade, I would like to specifically thank Oregon for all his input on this. If anyone still has advice on this i would love to listen, however, I'm pretty much settled on this knife...
again thanks to all of you : Larry S, tgw914, donovan, severed thumbs and oregon

phil
 
You are welcome.

I don't buy coated blades so you should make sure, check with the vendor if you have any doubts, that your chosen knife indeed comes coated black with the plain edge.

All the best,

oregon
 
I'm glad to see you were able to make a quick decision, the Mini-grip is a fine choice in your price range and to fit your needs.

The knife you listed from TFSC is a poor choice as far as light discipline goes. (John's site is a good reference but his prices are out of line for a web based company. I know he visits the studios and film sites in LA to sell so his prices are based on that client base.)

Just because an object is black doesn’t mean it isn’t reflective, and the coating on the Kershaw is shiny. A better choice would be a blade with a bead-blast or stonewashed treatment, both of these are matte finishes that cut down on reflection and stand up to wear very well. The current BM black finish is also matte and should do the job, but I cannot attest to its durability. If you really want a black knife great, but is your multi-tool and c-wrench black? How about your hammer?

I hardly ever recommend a knife with a partially serrated blade but if you do a lot of rigging and don’t think you can keep a plain edged blade really sharp the serrations might come in handy if you ever have to cut a line in a hurry. If you end up pursuing rigging as a career consider a “rescue” type knife with a fully serrated blade.

Getting a good sharpener and learning how to use it is a good idea, I have spent many an hour backstage putting an edge back onto peoples knife blades.

Enjoy your time in school, you will get to do a lot of experimenting with your work that you might not get to in the field. Are kids still using Parker and Wolf? I was one of Craig’s students at SDSU when he first re-did the chapter on lighting control councils to include computerized versions around the time you were born.

Good luck and have fun!

Regards,

James Segura
I.A.T.S.E. Local 16
San Francisco, CA
 
wow you bring up a lot of good points that i didn't even consider Mr. Segura(or however you wish to be addressed), I am @ Kent state university and this am going into my sophomore year there, so I have not so much experience in there, however I'm getting quite good with intelligent programming...
...so may I ask about what you do?
...and how does one get into IATSE (I'm pretty green)? I'm not sure if this is too offtopic or i should email you about these...
I will definitely look into just the matte finishes...
thanks.
 
phil000 said:
wow you bring up a lot of good points that i didn't even consider Mr. Segura(or however you wish to be addressed), I am @ Kent state university and this am going into my sophomore year there, so I have not so much experience in there, however I'm getting quite good with intelligent programming...
...so may I ask about what you do?
...and how does one get into IATSE (I'm pretty green)? I'm not sure if this is too offtopic or i should email you about these...
I will definitely look into just the matte finishes...
thanks.

Please, James or Jim is fine.

I mostly do lighting and electrics, I can run a Hog and a GrandMA but it seems keeping up on the lights and boards is a full time job in itself. I got my degree from SDSU and then worked around San Diego for a few years, mostly legit theater stuff at the Old Globe, SD Rep and the La Jolla Playhouse. After I moved back up to San Francisco I spent a few years working at a local production company before I got in with the Union.

Since joining the Local I have done a lot of work at the convention halls, as well as concert venues, theaters, the Symphony and Ballet, and I spent seven seasons at the SF Opera building practical lighting and special effects.

The key is being flexible and keeping up with your skills, if you see something new try and get familiar with it. Getting in with the Union can be tough, but if you are persistent and patient and do a good job once you get an opportunity you will do fine.

Feel free to email me, I always enjoy talking shop.
 
just a follow up to the bead-blast or stonewash, it looks like the 556 comes in with the black blade and the 154cm only in semi-serrated form because apparently only the 2006 line has 154cm...And i was unable to find any bead-blast or stonewash finish on this knife, only satin finish and can anyone reccomend a good sharpener (mind you college people are poor people)...
 
How did I miss this thread.

I think the only thing I could add is that, if you haven't already followed through with your choice, you might consider a small hawkbill or kerambit. esp if you are doing electrical work. it makes it easier to cut cable ties (if you use them) without risking damage to cables.
 
naw, I haven't sealed the deal with my choice b/c i'm getting the money together...slowly...
 
Hawkbill style knives are also wery useful for getting off the F%^$ing gaff tape that wraps around a cable when your striking, without doing in the cable or yourself.
 
I have a couple dozen years backstage experience as well, and have a few thoughts to throw in the pot.

First, the Griptillian is a good knife with a solid lock, but I'd get the 154 CM or the D2 model over the S30V Ritter Grip. I had a full size Ritter Grip, and the flat grind blade makes deep cuts in material better than the standard Grip blade profile does, but I had problems with the S30V blade chipping, which surprised me because I didn't use the knife that hard. YMMV But I would stick with the less expensive steels. Having bought a couple knives with "exotic steel" like 440V, S30V, I have found that I've gone from blades that dull by rolling the edge over (440A) to blades that dull by chipping. I have been happy with D2,and VG10, but even a reasonably well made knife from 440A will last for a couple of years of backstage work before it's sharpened away to nothing.

Don't sweat the black coating too much. You will scuff and sharpen most of it off fairly soon if you are really using the knife and anyway it's unlikely that you will be flashing your knife around enough that you'll distract the audience from the show. And a black blade has one disadvantage backstage, it will blend in wherever you set it down, even when the worklights are on. A little time spent with some fine grit sandpaper will make any shiny blade fairly non-reflective.

The only downside to the Grip for electrics work is that the blade angle is a little on the thick side for pin splitting. Of course you would never be so foolish as to split pins with anything other than a Pin Splitter (tm) but...

My current EDC is a Spyderco D'Allara DP, another good knife with a solid lock and a thick blade, but it splits pins well because the blade is hollow ground. It's pretty big when folded though, so big I probably wouldn't have bought it if I could have tried one locally. The VG10 steel has performed well so far.

I would suggest you start sharpening with a guide so you can keep a constant bevel angle. There are lots out there, but DMT makes a plastic one that sells for less than $10 and works quite well if you don't treat it like it's made of anything stronger than plastic. I have bought a lot of sharpening stones over the years, and the ones I still use are diamond stones. Hype aside, I think EZ-Lap offers the best bang for the buck and they usually offer some great deals when they have a booth at a machinist's or sporting goods expo. But while you save up for sharpening stones you can do a surprisingly good job with a few dollars worth of sandpaper. Do a web search on "scary sharp"
 
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