Stainless scaled stockman

Bill DeShivs

Bill DeShivs

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Does any one know who made a stockman pattern with stainless scales? Scales are almost identical to the MIL-K 818 G.I. 4 blade utility knife, but it's a 3 blade carbon steel stockman.
There are no markings on the handle or blades, and there is no bail.
 
Camillus made some stainless-handled stockmans, but I think they were all stamped "Camillus" or "Silver Sword".
 
Case also made one. Do you have some pictures??
 
The only one I remember is the Camillus 836 & 834 Silver Sword knives. They were little tanks.
I think Camillus actually called them Canoes.
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Unfortunately, the pictures are on Facebook, and I can't copy them.
Handles look just like the military knife, with no markings.
Blades are typical stockman-3 of them. No bail.
 
Was it anything similar to the camillus " what a knife " jack ?
They only came in Jack's, single clip blade, clip and pen, and clip and cap lifter. They always said " what a knife " on the handles and I'm pretty sure had tang stamps. I'm betting this was a made in Japan take on the concept.
 
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Dean51 said:
The only one I remember is the Camillus 836 & 834 Silver Sword knives. They were little tanks.
I think Camillus actually called them Canoes.
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Give this man a prize. The Camillus 834 Large Canoe came with a brushed stainless handle. You can find it on page 11 of this catalog. I've never seen a Dura-Tool, What-A-Knife or MIL-K knife in a stockman configuration.

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I've never seen a MIL-K sold in a stockman configuration. I've never seen one with with carbon steel blades either, other than old WW2/Korean war issued knives.
 
I've seen a picture from a vendor (below), of an old Camillus equal-end (or 'cigar') pattern stockman built with conventional bolsters & covers. According to the vendor's description, it looks to be the same length closed, at 3-3/4", as the Camillus MIL-spec (or 'demo') knives, which are also built to an equal-end pattern, and otherwise appears similar/same in size & shape.

Just speculating, but I wonder if the pivot pins and anchor pin for the springs might also be drilled to the same pattern locations between the two(?). If so, I could conceivably see someone dismantling an old stockman with (maybe) damaged covers, removing the scales and bolsters, and replacing the handle scales with those from the military-style knife and re-pinning, minus the bail. Maybe they'd fit? It'd be interesting to learn if Camillus actually used one pattern for both knives, assuming the stockman is actually the same format, pattern/size-wise, as the military knife.

Just a thought...

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David
 
Good speculation- but this knife has not been modified.
 
With no stamping details on the blade, handle, etc., it sort of screams improvised, knock-off or clone, if nothing else. May not be a Camillus at all. Carbon steel blades with a stainless handle seems oddly mismatched as well; makes one wonder what the intended market was for it, if it was by design. Sounds more like a knife thrown together from a mix of parts, maybe a 'lunch box knife' put together from new parts by a factory employee.

I did come across another old sale listing (expired) on the web, with one each of two old Camillus patterns made for Sears/Roebuck in the 1920-1940 time frame, side by side; one is the old Camp/utility pattern, and the other an equal-end Cattle pattern (stockman), both of which the vendor specifically states are apparently built to the same pattern/frame (3-3/4" closed). Identical size & shape. So, if someone at Camillus had access to unstamped parts for the patterns, including access to the MIL-spec stainless handle version of the camp knife, maybe it could happen. But, who knows...

Without a link to the pics at least, we'll probably never know. Or, even with pics of an unstamped knife, for that matter.


David
 
You may not be able to directly copy or save the picture from Facebook but you should be able to just take a screen shot to edit and crop out everything but the picture.
 
Jsega51 said:
You may not be able to directly copy or save the picture from Facebook but you should be able to just take a screen shot to edit and crop out everything but the picture.
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You can also get it if you know how to navigate the "inspect element" stuff but sometimes it's easier to just screenshot.
 
How does one do a "screen shot?"
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