Starting my lifestyle change

SurpriseGoat said:
I say this in the most honest non insulating way, I think you might have other issues to deal with first. Being fit won't change depression, and many many formally heavy people aren't able to achieve the body they want because it's unrealistic. I truly wish you all the best, please reach out to that someone you most connect with in this life and begin a change for the better.

Nathan
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Actually, if he is depressed because of his body image and decides to get in better shape, that very well may be the absolute best cure for his depression.
 
Converge said:
Actually, if he is depressed because of his body image and decides to get in better shape, that very well may be the absolute best cure for his depression.
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There is a difference between depression and oppression. If the state of mind is based on weight and lack of healthy choices, that leads to a domino affect of other variables, then it could be oppression. Thus weight loss and excercise would be benefical. If there is a chemical imbalance then it could very well be depression and no matter how much weight is lost the root issue will remain. Inductive vs deductive basically

No matter the root, the mind set displayed in the post thus far are red flags imo that there is an underlining issue and the weight issue is not the most prominent.

This is why I suggested a professional who can determine and discern the root cause. The forum is not a place to speculate on a matter of physical and psychological health. He needs to speak to someone trained and in person.

To the OP - I hope you do atleast attempt to speak to someone. What do you have to lose in trying.
 
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Hey man, didn't read the whole thread, just wanted to throw in a few words of encouragement. You can do this. Not only by yourself, but you can find the people to help you. I have no idea what advantages and disadvantages you might have right now, but you've made the start. Do whatever you have to do to make this happen, pick a diet, use social pressure, do a program or make up your own thing, find a doc willing to push you hard. The first bit is going to suck, but the single reason most people don't drop the weight is they take the easy way. They want it to not hurt. And when it does hurt, they give up. The body and the brain run together, and both your body and brain will fight you, and each other. For being a modern scientific society we know so little about what the body does or needs. But you can make your body follow your orders, instead of giving into your guts demands (keep in mind all them little bacteria want the food they want, and know how to ask for it) You've committed to it, and you need to do whatever it takes to get healthy. Start a thread and do daily updates if it helps. But regardless, you can, you know it, you have your life on the line here, and you have to fight for it. Do what helps you. if exercise helps, cool. If meditation helps, cool. if reading or study or art helps, then do what helps. Don't do things that don't help. Only you can figure that out.
 
Pscho cybernetics, if you get a chance watch this, buy the books, or CDs. Read, listen, over and over.

They talk about changing your self image, I've listen to the CDs dozens of times. Works in all areas of our life's.


http://youtu.be/Y2o2xuUcLQQ
 
Good luck to you. Addiction is an inside job. For those situations that bug me, if I can avoid them, I do until I'm able to handle them. Other than that:

Worry about nothing, Pray about everything!
 
Well lets see its been awhile. Probably since the beginning of December I've been keeping a journal that I write in every night before bed. Really help's me decompress and organize my thoughts. Went to a doctor about my my anxiety issue and my constant worrying about everything in life. She wasn't my doctor, but a sub since my doctor was out in vacation. Which good for him, but sucked for me. I talked too thus sub doc and she pretty said that I don't have stress because I'm too young. Which baffles me because when does stress have anything to do with age. She ended up prescribing me this pills for panic attacks too take one when needed, but only once week. That really doesn't help me when it's a constant stress that's the issue. Not a episode that comes on. Fella at work actually tried selling me some weed when I was talking too him about it. I don't know about that, I bet that if I told the doctor about the alternative I'm considering that make kick them in gear. Should probably make another appointment when my doc is in, not really after pills, but help.

On a different note I've been using my punching bag a lot latley. Actually broke the dam thing. Probably due to its age and my heavy blows. But now I can use a "ground and pound" bag as the guys at work would call it. Now I need a new bag though. Been doing the bag for four days now. I like how I can mix up the routine in it. Really takes the boredom out of repetition. Ever see a 300 pond fella kick, its pretty powerful. When I can get it right of course.

Diet has changed slightly, don't drink or eat that much crap anymore. Really just trying baby steps this time around. I heard somewhere that trying too change makes you better than those that do not try. I feel that their is some truth to that.

Did have a fail yesterday though. On the road for work and had mc Donalds for lunch, big mistake. Made it worst when I was in the store that evening shopping while hungry. I've realized that I cannot control myself if I buy chips or a junk food. That's why it's better that I don't. It's late and have to get up in the morning for work, but it'll be Friday tomorrow YAY!!!
 
Glad to hear from you, I.N.F.K You may have gathered that a lot of us care about how you are faring. Punching and kicking sound about right for stress :D and my sense is that your instinct to connect with a doctor you trust is right on. My best to you.
 
Best of luck on your journey. Sincerely. Changing a way ofife isn't an easy thing, nor a quick fix, it is a long term commitment. My best advice is don't let guilt or shame weigh on you if/when you stumble. You're young, you got your whole life to "get it right", and as long as you're genuinely trying, even a step back once in a while doesn't stop you from continuing to move forward, instead see it as a moment to reflect and regroup.
You can make the conscious choice to "restart" your day at any moment. And tomorrow is always another day. Reflect on the past, but don't dwell on it.
 
Well I finally went ahead and made an appointment with my doctor. Either he is just going to prescribe me meds or is going to refer me to a specialist.
 
This is the first time I've seen this thread. I skimmed most of it but read all of your posts. I'm pulling for you! It is tough. I've lost and gained weight back several different times throughout my life but this last time I have been able to keep it off for four years. Everybody is different - for me it was getting hooked (more like addicted) on the gym and using my gains there to eat better and healthier. Reading your posts, it sounds like you were close to being there - just from all of the guilt for not going. You can't beat yourself up every-time you miss a gym session or stop at Hardees; you just have to tell yourself "that is not me" and get back on your plan.

Good luck! and I am pulling for you!
 
I.N.F.K. you have expressed yourself well here about how you feel and what you are working toward. Trust your sense of what you seek from your doctor. You are your own advocate.
 
I am glad you stopped drinking! I want to encourage you to go visit a local pastor, someone who has already been through the wars, and has the wisdom of God and therefore will counsel wisely. Look in the phone book, or just go for a walk in your neighborhood, or get in the car and drive around; find someone near your home and you will be blessed. My prayers are with you brother.
 
I.N.F.K.

Keep fighting and keep continuing to search for the right solution for you. Sharing your concerns with doctors and/or counselors is a positive step. Listen to their advice and see what makes sense. Try to eat as healthy as you can, drink a lot of water (it's healthy and calming), exercise and try to create positive social bonds. Try to create a habit out of all of these positive things. Change takes time but things can get better. Of course it is easy for us to dole out the advice. I need to lose 15-20 pounds myself [emoji2]. Time to create my own plan...
 
Charlie Mike said:
Dammit, got a pack of menthols in my pocket again. Hopefully I'll get tired of them quickly.

As for pushups, I do a set of 50 (feet elevated on bed) first thing when I wake up.

I was 185 this morning.
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I actually fired up and did 30 push-ups this morning. Better than nothing..
 
Went to the doctor yesterday to get some help and advice. Pretty confident that my stress is due to my job now. My doc said that my blood pressure is to high and I have an irregular heartbeat. He prescribed me bupropion hcl xl 150mg to take daily. Ill be going back in three weeks for a check up. I was moving to Pennsylvania in July this year to pursue a trade in electronics. But I may be leaving much sooner.
 
My best to you in whatever course of action you choose. Trust yourself - think hard - weigh progress - be honest with yourself.

Check in from time to time ... above all, find some happiness. Isn't that the goal for us all?
 
Krav said:
Pscho cybernetics, if you get a chance watch this, buy the books, or CDs. Read, listen, over and over.

They talk about changing your self image, I've listen to the CDs dozens of times. Works in all areas of our life's.


http://youtu.be/Y2o2xuUcLQQ
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Admittedly, I haven't read through the many pages that follow this initial post but YES, Krav is nailing a part of this with Psycho-Cybernetics. Maxwell Maltz is a genius. My father and him were friends (my father being one of the fathers of NLP) and this is the first book he suggested I read, even before NLP basics. A POWERFUL book that can produce results.

Some other things come to mind that may help...cold water immersion. The thermal load of cold water has amazing effects on the human body. You can do all of the research or take my word for it. Start taking all of your showers/baths as cold as is possible. It is a depression annihilator. I know, sounds crazy.

Look into Tim Ferris' slow carb diet. It's extremely effective even if it can get really boring. Do that and when you can't handle it anymore, intersperse it with Martin Berkhan's Leangains. When you get down to a weight you are happy with, switch over to Leangains as it is something you can do everyday for the rest of your life.

To the OP, massive creds to you. You have the huevos to admit not only to yourself but to thousands of other people that you have some serious changes to make. All of us have changes to make. The majority of us just aren't willing to admit it. :thumbup: to you.

Survivormind
 
Hey dude. I used to work in addictions and social work. Send me a PM if you're interested in having a dialogue about some practical life stuff to can make this kind of work hurt a lot less.
 
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