Starting over

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I recently traded off my whole collection of folders. Decided to start over. I had 43 models. I did pass down a Benchmade 42 to my son and I kept my Emerson CQC-7 and a Protech TR3. I was surprised how quick some models got swept up. I have a stonewashed Microtech Mini Socom that everyone wanted. The pocket clip had broke off and Microtech was unable to supply me with a new one because they don't keep records.😀 It still went quick. So what's next to add to my collection? I don't care a lot for imports. U.S. made knives are quickly becoming out of my reach for pocket knives. I prefer to stay under $100 for most and occasionally go up to $200 for a few special models. Looking forward to new models for 2017 and this will also be my first trip to the SHOT Show.
 
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Well, knife prices are rising quite dramatically with knives from China fetching over $300 lately. I have no bias towards country of origin, but this isn't something we have seen in years past. You can still get a nice knife in the $100-200 range, but if you're looking for something that's on par with the Socom and US made, you're easily looking at a $200+ knife.

Many knives made overseas are actually very well made and can offer you a great value in the $100-200 range. I would not cross some of them off of my list, but that's your choice. It really comes down to what type of knives you're looking for.
 
There’s a disconnect between the jobs we have and the location and skillsets of the workforce,” Pinkus said. Rather than trying to fend off globalization and technology, the U.S. ought to “embrace them as necessary ingredients of growth in the new global economy, while retooling its policies and labor market accordingly,” McKinsey analysts wrote.

“Getting more Americans to participate in the opportunities associated with digitization and foreign trade and investment will allow them to share the productivity and growth benefits that can result—and stepping up efforts to support the workers who are caught up in industry transitions will ease the economic and societal stresses.”

Good question. Something perhaps we should all think about in pursuit of progress in an increasingly cohesive society.

I believe your intent noble when you say you have no interest in imports yet prices for knives made on the US carry a lot more shown in high pricing. That's the heart of the conundrum.

I think we should be looking at imports.. as compared to our own market in a globally competitive market. It's not just about quality or even the product itself.

Good will is now the essence of every business. What a business represents withe the product. Not just what was used to make it, but how it was made. Transparency and business integrity, reliability, is where people will want to invest in, especially when the product itself is of the same quality.

Let's face it, ATM, quality of imports is good. Imports were our standard for decades, when eventually molded those countries into the top manufacturers.

We do need go back to supporting local.. but you know local also has to go back to supporting the people, not just by pushing product.. hawked from another system to improve just that individual business, but by pushing product which entails work and good will.

We don't want to see QM made in the USA without people or a place. We want you see QM and comments from happy workers from that 6 floor factory. The QM Campus.

The rich fckers need to ring it in. Less profit, more satisfaction.

Starting over. It only takes one.
 
True - but will this trend continue? Consensus seems to be that the knife market - both new and secondary - is soft and getting softer. Is this a temporary situation? Maybe. But if not, supply and demand will result in a trend toward lower prices - or at least fewer and slower increases in price.

I understand there are exceptions to every rule - but again, most of those can be traced to supply and demand. Even in a soft market, certain items will continue to be sought after and pursued - and priced accordingly.

Well, knife prices are rising quite dramatically with knives from China fetching over $300 lately.
 
There are still MANY fine folders for less than $200 on the Exchange, and they are often described as NEW- opened for pics.
I'm talking about ZT and Spyderco primarily, as I am a big Spydie fan, but also enjoy ZT's when they are less than brick-heavy.
(My carry needs are casual duty only)
I can be served quite easily and economically, with just these two brands...
 
In some ways, it would be fun to start over. Less knives, better quality.
I have to agree. If i sarted over, no trial and error like the first time around. Im older and wiser. I know whats good and exactly what i want.
 
True - but will this trend continue? Consensus seems to be that the knife market - both new and secondary - is soft and getting softer. Is this a temporary situation? Maybe. But if not, supply and demand will result in a trend toward lower prices - or at least fewer and slower increases in price.

I understand there are exceptions to every rule - but again, most of those can be traced to supply and demand. Even in a soft market, certain items will continue to be sought after and pursued - and priced accordingly.

I'd have to disagree that the market is soft. In some cases, yes. In others, no.

Go on Instagram for a while and you'll see why I disagree.
 
I have to agree. If i sarted over, no trial and error like the first time around. Im older and wiser. I know whats good and exactly what i want.

So, my friend, now that you are wiser, what advice would you give to someone that wanted to start over?
 
I'm going to take a guess that you're referring mainly to high end knives? The OP stated that he wanted to keep his purchases around the $100-$200 range. Is it your position that the knife market is not currently soft in the $250-and under price range?

I'd have to disagree that the market is soft. In some cases, yes. In others, no.

Go on Instagram for a while and you'll see why I disagree.
 
Since you're going off topic, I'll let you address those points yourself:thumbup:

I'm going to take a guess that you're referring mainly to high end knives? The OP stated that he wanted to keep his purchases around the $100-$200 range. Is it your position that the knife market is not currently soft in the $250-and under price range?
 
You were the one who introduced the issue of price trends, so if anyone is off topic, it's you. I have consistently pointed back to the OP's assertion regarding the price range that he is interested in, and tried to address that.

Since you're going off topic, I'll let you address those points yourself:thumbup:
 
I've liquidated my collection twice over the years and it is most certainly liberating.
The first time was to refocus on traditionals. This most recent time was to focus on fewer higher quality stuff both modern and traditional. I now have around a dozen of each and generally sell one or two in order to get in another.

I do have a few regrets from each liquidation though, namely my pm1 d2, spyderco khukuri (which I've since replaced for stupid $) and a smooth white bone gec 73.

I look forward to seeing what your refocused collection looks like. Also, sorry if I missed it, but what did you trade them all for?

Matt
 
You were the one who introduced the issue of price trends, so if anyone is off topic, it's you. I have consistently pointed back to the OP's assertion regarding the price range that he is interested in, and tried to address that.

Since you're [still] going off topic, I'll let you address those points yourself:thumbup:
 
So, my friend, now that you are wiser, what advice would you give to someone that wanted to start over?
Dont be fooled by gimmicks. Quality costs money. The design and construction of a knife is more important than the blade steel. Good steel is important too but it doesnt have to be the lastest and greatest super steel.
 
When you go to Shot Show , if you see a sketchy looking guy brown bagging his knives into the show ask him for the physical address of his fictitious USA knife factory. ;)
[video=youtube;JdC8F2jkBU8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdC8F2jkBU8&t=98s[/video]
 
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