stealth technologies titanium credit card knife

I don't know how they'll stack up ,but without a doubt some dimwit
will try to get on an airplane with one. Stealth technololgy ?? Nah ,
more like very dim technology I'd say. Knife nuts have enough
trouble without products like this to give the do gooders something
to dramatize as the "evils" of knives.
 
Hmmmm, my real question was how they stacked up to other credit card knives. For example the JSP and others. Nothing insidious implied.
 
No offense, mate. It's just that knives that are to easy to conceal
are plain bad news now. Now is the time that knife nuts have to
very careful in how we represent our hobby to the general uniformed
public. Any credit card knife will raise an eyebrow or two because
it was concealed IN our wallet. No matter the convience to the owner.

For yet another manufacture to bring out a MORE easily concealable
version is just plain dumb.
 
I agree that this would be a bad thing to carry at the present time. The other problem is that Ti often (depending on the alloy used) generates few, if any, eddy currents when moved in a magnetic field. Which means that you may be able to walk right through the most common type of metal detector with your Ti knife.

If you get caught with one of these AFTER you have gone through security, then you are likely to be in DEEP kim chee.

Walt
 
VERY, VERY DEEP kim chee indeed. Might make you a long time guest at
the local crowbar hotel. I don't think the airport is the only place now that one
could get in very real trouble with any type of concealed knife or edged tool.

I know that the question wasn't geared to the twist it took and for that I'm sorry.
It's just that a lot of young people read these forums and they don't always
think thing completely through before they do them. I'm trying very hard to
to let all know that NOW isn't the time or the place to play games with this
subject.
 
The only evil knife that exists is the one used to perpetrate evil or the one we will allow to be considered evil. There is nothing wrong with that knife or the JSP CC blades either. If you carry one through, or attempt to, to get the thing on a plane, you get what it is coming to you though.

The only thing "wrong" with that knife is they ripped off JSP's design for it.
 
I'm in with Don. I never leave home with out my JSP CC Knife. And if it makes you feel any better, I never leave home with out a gun either.

If you can legally carry one (like in my area), do so. If it's illegal in your area, I suggest you don't. But let's not paint the world with just one brush.
 
HOLLISTER!

BTW, James has the retrofit, protective "boot" to slip onto the clip now. Give him a ring or whatnot and see if you can put it on yourself. Save two way shipping, etc.
 
once all 3 parties involved were in communication, a swift and diplomatic resolution was agreed upon to the issue of design copying.

STT is the pseudonym for a custom maker who wished to use a different name until he got clearance to use his personal name on this particular item from the gov't agency he originally designed and sold this item to.

the maker of the STT ti credit card knife was not studied nor an expert of JSP's wares. he was aware of their existnce, but he himself has been busy working on his own projects and has so for many years. he is tip-top and a well known and repsected memeber of the knife community. once he was made aware of the situtation with JSP he promptly instructed for his items to pulled from the TAD site and be sent back to him, pending further notice from JSP or otherwise. he was apologetic for any apperances of inpropriety.

both JSP and the maker in question were both true gentlemen, sympathetic, and understanding of the synchronys scenario.

any future production and offering of this product will be at the express permission by JSP to be produced by this maker; as agreed by both parties.

the perhaps accusatory and potentionally inflamatory inference of intentional theft of intellectual property, while a dilligent and honorable demonstration of devotion to JSP, is perhaps in this case incorrect....

while testosterone laden chest beating and posturing is occasionally found here on the forums, in this instance i can happily say that there was no malice, conspiracy, or other such nastiness in this particular scenario.

knifenuts all, have a happy and remembered holiday this 2001. peace. :)

-pm
 
Originally posted by francis7
the perhaps accusatory and potentionally inflamatory inference of intentional theft of intellectual property, while a dilligent and honorable demonstration of devotion to JSP, is perhaps in this case incorrect....

while testosterone laden chest beating and posturing is occasionally found here on the forums, in this instance i can happily say that there was no malice, conspiracy, or other such nastiness in this particular scenario.

-pm

Very condescending. It has nothing to do with "devotion" to JSP, although James is my friend. Some of your comments in your post are a unique way of detouring the discussion, a diversion. This is the deal:

What this has to do "with" is a Credit Card Blade, a piece of steel in the general size of a Credit Card, the angle of the edge and that's it. There are only a couple ways that this can be done without destroying a wallet and even these will with that angle if you're not careful. The only thing missing was the hole.

I know Piorek and TAD have reached an agreement, that's fine, but don't make the statement that it was rip-off into some sort of hysterical rhetoric when it was not. It was the truth. Just like two other "respected" Knifemakers copying his stuff constantly.

Using "TAD" as a prime example, if someone came out with the name "Triple Aught Design" and they were selling the same products as TAD does, that would indeed be a Xerox thing, would it not? If the company developed separate from the "Tactical Supply Realm," and they were selling software and did not know "Triple Aught Design" or "TAD" in the Tactical Realm, then that would be innocent.

As soon as people found out the source for Rayskin Checkbooks and Wallets, they could not WAIT to go out and make a buck on what Piorek pioneered and the only defense anyone can offer to that is, "Did James invent a checkbook or wallet, Don? No, so I'll make what I damned well please..." Or they use Red Herrings while some steal direct names like one "respected" Maker did a couple of years ago, that Name/Descriptor being "Static Cord."

When asked about it, he started CYA-Procedures and made Counteraccusations, "Did James invent a cowhitch knot?" And, "Did James Patent ParaCord? I think Army Airborne has been using that for a few years..." And this wonderful, deliberate detour, "Did James invent Japanese Tanto?" All of which were never the issue but the deliberate copying of a design, with the added insult of using the term "Static Cord." That's a whole new ballgame.

While the copying of a Tanto/Kwaiken/Aikuchi is hardly a "Sin" as they are ancient, when you see a knife that has a leather covered Kydex sheath, something Piorek is known for, a cord used for drawing it attached to the pommel and the same word is used for that as what Piorek was using at the time, along with the sheath being cowhitched using the same method, one begins to wonder. There is not alot that can be done about THAT, but the real pisser was, the guy did not only rip the Static Cord Rigging, he friggin' came right out and called it, "Static Cord" until he was told to change it! I know this happened because I'm the one that told Piorek about it.

Since this particular piece that started this round of controversy, looking at the picture, is basically a carbon copy of the JSP CC Blade without a hole [which makes it dangerous I might add as the hole is not only for indexing, but a more secure grip...] I would not call this "testosterone laden chest beating" or whatever term. It's the truth, if the truth sucks, so be it.

As for all the anonymity when it comes to Gubmint Agencies, etc., yeah, OK. More Secret Squirrel smoke & mirrors. I would think if the Secret Squirrels that inhabit the X-Files Building wanted a "Stealth Card," they would have hired someone on to do it in a ceramic. We already developed that line of thinking months ago in the JSP Forum, Mr. Hollister can testify to that I do believe he was there. I guess using "Navy SEALs" to sell everything has faded, now we have to go back to Secret Agent Man stuff...ahh, the allure of having what some Devoted Mr. "Q" made... :D

You have to understand something, one of the reasons it makes me mad when I see people do this is, they have Talent. Know what I mean? I've seen two very Talented Makers rip this other Talented Maker and they really don't have to do things this way. They could develop their own thing, right? People should do the right thing and not the wrong thing and put in the extra hours of designing and developing their own innovative things. The lure of money is a powerful thing.
 
intent and perception...try as one might predispositions often rule and the tenor in spoken dialogue is often left for wanting in typed text.

don, you are an articluate, respected, and informative forums particpant.

no "condescend-tion" meant or given.

...again in summary, both JSP and "X-maker" worked things out to apprarently their mutual satisfaction. we'll take that at face value and live with it happily.

peace.

-pm
 
Anybody have a pic of the old hideout cc knife made by Maddog?? I remember hearing about one, but never saw a picture. just wondering. Thanks.


Blades
 
Originally posted by francis7
...again in summary, both JSP and "X-maker" worked things out to apprarently their mutual satisfaction. we'll take that at face value and live with it happily.

peace.

-pm

And I think that is grand. What originally got my goat was the "chestbeating" or whatever. I was just stating some facts about some things that have happened. Not going overboard at all. I'm actually glad that the whole thing was settled.
 
WELL, IT FINALLY HAPPENED!!! TWO IDJITS GOT ON A PLANE IN
ENGLAND WITH A CREDIT CARD KNIFE.

Sorry, didn't mean to yell it's just that the opportunity for this to happen
was just to great for it not to happen. What supprized me was that is was
the Spyderco credit card knife they used. That and an ink pen knife and
plastic comb knife. All readily available to the public.

To make matters even worse is it was to newspaper reporters that did it . It
doesn't take a lot of thinking to know these reporters are gonna have a field
day reporting the "evils" of getting a knife on a plane.

So in my book "improving" a bad idea for a knife design is bound to give the
do gooders even more ammuniton now.

Let the witch hunt begin.........
 
The newspaper story that you refer to was made into the lead item on most of the news programs through Sunday in the UK. These nice careing reporters are now causing British Airways and the UK airports to review their security procedures (again....) we have not heard the last of this story... :(

Regards,

Ed
 
If someone with the capability would please post a picture of the Stealth Technology, Titanium Credit Card Knife, I'd appreciate it greatly. Is the whole thing made from titanium? I'd like to see it.

Thanks,
Will
 
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