Steel liners?

I agree on linerless knives being cool for basic cutting tasks. Opening stuff and cutting light material you will be just fine without liners. It may actually be a benefit because of the lighter weight that equals more comfortable carry.
 
Cutlerylover showed that, even on a linerless knife, you are going to snap the blade before you break the handle. How often do you snap blades?

[video=youtube;PCTOiymTJSo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCTOiymTJSo[/video]
 
I agree that for light general duty linerless knives, made possible by modern materials, are great. Not all of these materials are created equal, however. Some will flex or break with harder use, rendering the knife useless, or inefficient. Cold Steel uses the linerless approach on the AL/Recon 1/AK47 knives as the G10 is very thick. Also, there is, I believe, some reinforcing around the lock. I have a Lone Wolf Mini Landslide that is linerless, and it is tough. But, if I had to use it really hard, I do not know. Cold Steel started putting liners in the Voyagers because the flex was really bad from the material they were using. I would as soon have a linerless American Lawman as I would a full liner knife, but this is due to construction. However, the much loved Spyderco Military still has partial liners in the stress areas and this is something to note.
I do carry a small linerless knife (Dragonfly) quite often, but, then again, I do not expect it to be a rescue knife. As long as a linerless knife is not pushed outside its design parameters, it is okay as a simple cutting tool. Just don't as too much of most of them.
 
G-10 is freakishly tough, but adding rigidity with steel or titanium liners is preferable for hard-use folders. The PM2 has a perfect balance of strength and efficiency, and I like the nested, skeletonized liner approach a bit more than the exposed liners of the Manix 2 XL. I'll take ti liners over steel, though -- same strength per cubic centimeter, at just 56% the weight. When a full-sized knife like the PM2 can do the skeletonized steel nested in G-10, and still keep the weight down around 4 ounces, titanium isn't necessary.
 
I'm not sure why anyone worries about liners except in designing very large folders where you want to reduce the weight some.

I agree with Murdoc 370's posting.

I think that some of the best Spyderco liners (or any liners) are on my EDC Gayle Bradley, and I really could give a hoot about liners as long as they do their job, whatever it is..

The Gayle Bradley liners were made oversize such that they improve the handle feel as well as strengthen the handle.

Here is some Spyderco video info from Gayle about what he was trying to do with his knife design/liners. The M4 blade steel and shape, CF scales, and did I mention the M4 steel, make the GB a great beater knife for EDC use. I'd like to see the guy in Cynics posting try his Cold Steel in the tree test with a Gayle Bradley.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk0IxU-fuW4



Here's the link to the Cold Steel broken blade test.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCTOiymTJSo



And Spyderco's cut down trees, too funny!!!:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEwydLpomTY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d0lEIR2U2k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql80eg-x_vw



WTH, even little George Washington knew that you use a hatchet to cut down the cherry tree, not a knife. Geez Louise, what are they thinking?!
 
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