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420 works fine for ''fighting''
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It doesn't matter. A grocery store serrated steak knife is a great "fighting" knife. So is a broken beer bottle.
All that matters is "sharp" while one is using it.
Enjoy your knife fighting!
LOL! +1
My 9mm will beat any knife welder.:thumbup:
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Didn't mean to be an a$$, but why do u need a "fighting" knife in these day and age?
If you really "want" a "fighting" knife, u need something that doesn't break right? 1095 carbon steel, L6, Infi, and laminated stainless like Fallkniven's VG-10 are all plenty tough for fighting purpose.
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here is a guote i found on 'fighting knives'... however it says nothing about steel.
"The only place where the knife fighting fantasy exists
is in the martial arts. There is no such thing in the modern
civilized world. In legal terms it is attempted murder,
assault with a deadly weapon or homicide. To the streetfighter
it is assassination, not a "fight" at all. To the criminal it is a tool
for robbery Everyone else considers it abhorrent macho stupidity."
MM
Marc 'animal' Macyoung
"The only place where the knife fighting fantasy exists
is in the martial arts. There is no such thing in the modern
civilized world. In legal terms it is attempted murder,
assault with a deadly weapon or homicide. To the streetfighter
it is assassination, not a "fight" at all. To the criminal it is a tool
for robbery Everyone else considers it abhorrent macho stupidity."
MM
Marc 'animal' Macyoung
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That looks like an excellent knife. W-2 is a tool steel, so don't expect it to stay shiny after cutting veggies (it WILL develop dark spots VERY quickly). As long you're not considering cutting "people" with it, I'm all for preparing meals with a cool custom cutlery, adds a little PIZZAZZ to the kitchen!:thumbup:
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I have owned at least a 100+ factory knives in the past; Ontario, Cold Steel, Ka-bar, ESEE, Busse, Fallkniven, you name it (I have around 50 knives in my current collection).... But right now, my experiences tells me for a knife's intended purpose I have narrowed down to Fallkniven for small fixed blade, Busse ASH-1 for medium fixed blade, and ESEE for large chopping and cutting chores. My reasoning:
1) (Small cutting chore) Fallkniven VG-10 laminated stainless; as we all know stainless is not a "tough" steel for any chopping purpose, but it's resistance to blood or fruit acid staining makes it perfect for food prep.
2) (Small cutting and light chopping) Busse's Infi; a VERY well rounded "all-purpose" semi-stainless that rivals carbon steel in toughness and stain-resistant enough for food prep (without leaving a funny taste on your tomato). It is also very expensive, therefore I don't recommend using it for chopping (although it's more than capable of dealing with such chores), dollar for dollar there are cheaper alternatives that'll get you the same result.
3) (Heavy chopping and batoning) ESEE's 1095; another well rounded steel, tough as nails but it's not stainless, personally I limit myself using this steel from cutting fruits (some people like the taste it leaves behind but I don't). Chopping, this is where this paticular steel is good for. Dollar for dollar, this is the best steel type for chopping fire wood and batoning. Infi is also a tough steel, if not tougher, but I just can't see myself using a $500+ knife to do this type of work. An all-around heavy chore camp knife.
In the past year, all my knife purchases has been in these three knife brands only. They're all fairly easy to sharpen (compared to recent super steel types), maintain a superb edge, tough, and Infi maybe the toughest cutlery steel to date.
If you base your next knife purchase on these three manufacturers, I can guarantee that you will not be disappointed. Since you're pretty new to knife steel, you can try other knife brands but I have a feeling that you'll come back to these three brands. I have.
Then how come you said you wanted a fighting knife? Odd.
That Patton is a gorgeous knife, but have you ever cut a vegetable? You know how the edge of the knife has to come in contact with the cutting board?
With a recurve, for a good part of the blade, that ain't gonna happen. I mean, you could get by by doing draw cuts through the radish...but that's kinda silly IMO.
Do you use those Old Hickory's for camping, field dressing, and cooking chores? I bet they work great. (They did for the people who settled the United States!)
Get something that has the same style blade....only made with better materials.
Heck, this Phillip Patton Fighter would be an excellent choice...
See how the blade looks like a kitchen knife blade? Much more of an all-purpose blade style than the Panther.
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this is good and all but the entire world isnt alway civilized, and if you get into a bar fight or happen to be in or live in a bad neighborhood you generally want something on you and knives are on average cheaper then guns not including the ammo. i mean call me crazy but living in inner city dallas for 8yrs teaches you to keep something handy
I use a fighting knife for camp chores, hunting, utility... It's just a design...
I have a few Lamey fighters, I have Busse and other customs/productions.
I prefer W2 and L6 and 5160 which is pretty easy to get a good Heat treat but hard to make it sing.
I have a few Lamey fighters, I have Busse and other customs/productions.
I prefer W2 and L6 and 5160 which is pretty easy to get a good Heat treat but hard to make it sing.
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good point. but asking what steel is best for a 'fighting knife' is kinda like asking 'what should i use to chop down a tree'? answer: whatever you got handy. i guess any knife could be pressed into a 'fighting knife' by someone who knows what they are doing. the actual term seems ambiguous never mind what steel is best.
i probable should have simply said: 'the best you can afford' and left it at that.
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The Phillip Patton Tactical Panther - Les Robertson Vanguard series. "Only 10 will be made."
Not sure if that's the one but man I saw a pic and that knife is bad*ss!
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The Phillip Patton Tactical Panther - Les Robertson Vanguard series. "Only 10 will be made."
Not usre if that's the one but man I saw a pic and that knife is bad*ss!
That's the one. I'm not sure the difference but the other one mentioned, "vanguard panther," had wood handles instead. I assume everything else is similar.
