Okay, I love these knives, but I found another issue with the first one I bought, I noticed last night that the thumb stud is loose and spins freely in the blade. It doesn't seem to have any side to side movement so I don't think I have to worry about it falling out but it's kinda frustrating at this price point that 2 of the 3 I've have issues. I don't want to have to deal with sending it in for warranty, so I think I'm just going to squirt some red loctite in there and roll with it as a user. The blade lock up is rock solid with no play in any direction, the blade stonewash is very nice, the handle finish is great, the ergo's are great, I really do love the style and feel of these knives.