Stick tang tut.?

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I need a good stick tang tutorial with lots of pictures and I can't seem to find one. I have the general idea but seeing as I've never made one before, I think I'd feel more comfortable if I had some guidance of some kind.

And instead of making yet another thread, what's the best epoxy/glue to use for handles?

Thanks in advance.
 
I've been making my stick tangs without a pommel. I like my knives to balance on my index finger or even further towards the tip. Butt-caps look great, but they complicate this. The tang is generally about 3/4-7/8 the length of the handle. The guard is fitted and mounted as soon as the blade is ready for it's final finish. I've had good success with JB-Weld for my guards (brass, mild steel or nickel-silver). The fit must be tight or it will look like :barf: and maybe come loose someday. This is one of the more difficult parts of making a knife, at least for me. Actually it's not rocket science, you just have to be patient and aware. But when it's done poorly, it just screams "shoddy workmanship".

Everything is measured about 100 times, then the handle material is drilled for the tang, and drilled for at least one pin (crosswise). More measuring, then I drill the tang for the pin. I've gotten good results by "clamping" the handle blank onto the tang with several heavy rubber bands or hair-ties over the guard, and the butt of the handle material. Then using the pin-hole in the handle as a guide, ONLY to barely mark the tang with a carbide bit. All this is done with the handle material unshaped, so I'm dealing with "square" objects that are easy to clamp/drill/measure/ etc.

Then it's taken apart and I drill the tang.I cut the pin close to finish size, chuck it in the drill press to sand it down a bit (if I was smart I would order drill bits one size up so the pins fit easier.) Then I cut a few small notches in the sides of the pin, to give little places for epoxy to fill in and lock things together. Pre-assemble (no glue, just the pin) and begin most of the shaping.

It's all assembled with Power-Poxy. I got mine at Menard's, there may be better brands to use. There should be just enough clearance between the handle, tang and pin for epoxy to coat everything. I push the epoxy-coated pin through a couple times to make sure everything is coated. This not only helps things stick together, it seals the tang from any moisture.

If you want a pommel/butt-cap, the procedure is much the same. Except you'll drill all the way through the handle material, and leave the tang long enough to extend through it. Round off the end of the tang, thread it, then drill and tap the pommel to match. You won't need to mess with measuring for pins. Some makers specialize in take-down knives where there's no epoxy in it; the tang-nut or pommel can be unscrewed and the whole handle taken off for cleaning or whatever.
 
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Thank you for the reply, James! The reason I asked for pictures is because I'm much more of a visual learner but, you explained things pretty well. Now I just have to try it and hope I don't screw up! Thanks.
 
The link rayban posted is a good one. But I do have one discrepancy with it: the author advises the tang shoulders and the guard slot be square. This is likely the easiest way to get a good fit, but it's also the weakest way to build a knife.

Sharp inside angles, deep scratches, and the like are called stress risers. I've seen many rotary dies fail; I'm talking about 100# or more dies machined from solid tool steel, that rotate in bearing blocks on an integral shaft of about 1-1/2" diameter. In nearly every instance* that the shaft broke, it had been made with a square transition between the shaft and the body of the die, and that's where it snapped. I've never seen a die with properly radiused transitions fail this way -- same type of tool, same type of steel and heat-treat, used in the same machines. The only difference was the stress risers.

In short, if the tang shoulders are radiused, that is, a curve instead of a sharp right angle, the likelihood of breakage is greatly reduced. Given reasonably good HT, I'd dare say it's virtually eliminated. (Although of course, you can break any knife, with a solid vise, a cheater bar, and two or three large friends :D )

Fitting the guard slot to a radiused tang takes more work and care, but pays big dividends in the strength of the blade, and the strength of the guard/tang joint.

* I did see a couple of similar tools fail when the shaft broke; in those instances they broke very unevenly with jagged edges and a coarse feel to the surface of the break. I believe this has more to with improper heat-treat than anything else, and was very rare.
 
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Yeah I noticed that and I know to avoid those 90 degree angles. I'll be rounding my shoulders off. :)
 
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