Still confused about the Spydies

Daniel Moore

Daniel Moore

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Alright after searching Spyderco on the forums, I came across the banned member Zytif, who, if you remember, trashed Spydercos as being "disposable plastic". Is there no way to take these apart, or is it just difficult to do?

Thankyouverymuch!
Dan

BTW: I'm reffering to the FRN Delica.
 
Let me start out by saying that I only have one Spyderco, a Spyderhawk.

The fact is that most (all?) Spyderco lockbacks have riveted pivots. There's no way to adjust the pivot tension or even take apart the knife. This, IMO, is a HUGE negative against Spyderco knives because I am a tinkerer.

The FRN used for the handles has a cheap feel to it, even compared to other Zytel-handled knives like CRKT's and Gerbers (I'm thinking EZ-Outs). Don't get me wrong though, I like how my Spyderhawk feels in the hand. It's just that it looks kind of cheesy.

Just one look at the Spyderco forum tells you that they're a company that's very much customer-oriented and actually listens to user input. I also admire Spyderco for their dedication to design, in terms of ergonomics and getting the most bang for the buck, even if it means sacrificing a bit in the handle material.

So to me, FRN Spydercos aren't pretty, but they're fine as users.
 
I've been carrying an endura for well over 6 years, and never had a problem with it. Case, Buck, and others have had non-adjustable pivots for decades-what's the big deal?
 
I really don't understand the obsession with taking things apart.:rolleyes: Some designs, like the Sebenza were clearly designed to be disassembled, others are not. If a maker doesn't want you to take the knife apart, it's probably best that you don't.
 
The obsession, or the practicality? I don't think it's that great to spend $30 dollars on something that, if it needs to be serviced, can't be unless it's a workmanship defect.

Buttttttttt I'll still love Spyderco and the knife :D
 
Originally posted by Dijos
Case, Buck, and others have had non-adjustable pivots for decades-what's the big deal?
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That's why I don't plan on having any of those. :D Just my personal preference, and I've never understood those "OMG I can't void my Benchmade warranty" people.
 
do the research... there are lockback models which can be taken apart.

c07g, g-10 police, 97 cat...

c51g, g-10 rookie, same thing, 97 book

c05 standard, 97 book

c08gs g-10 harpy... 97, 98
 
Originally posted by anthony cheeseboro
I really don't understand the obsession with taking things apart.:rolleyes: Some designs, like the Sebenza were clearly designed to be disassembled, others are not. If a maker doesn't want you to take the knife apart, it's probably best that you don't.
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I think that the fact that a knife can be disassembled reflects a greater trust in the consumer, and also a greater commitment by the company towards quality and the ability to service the knife should it require adjustment. In Microtech's case, with the funny screws, they miss the first point but hit the second.

Of course, we're mostly a bunch of detail-obsessive knife nuts, so there's going to be a disproportionate number of us that want to disassemble our knives to see what's inside and to get rust-preventative into every little crevice. For most regular users, a riveted pivot would be fine. But I'm a little weird and I like attention to detail and the ability to modify the product.

VampyreWolf:
Whoops. :) I didn't do my research. I guess I should restrict my comments to all FRN and metal-handled Spyderco lockbacks.
 
alpha> I've just got the books here 96-03(missing a 99 book though... big hole)

I knew there were at least a couple models with screw const... 4yrs of being the knife history source on the home forum has me knowing the books cover to cover.
 
You can take the ATR apart. The Delica doesn't really need disassembly. A swab from cleaning and a hammer to whack a loose pivot are about all that are needed.
 
Originally posted by thombrogan
You can take the ATR apart. The Delica doesn't really need disassembly. A swab from cleaning and a hammer to whack a loose pivot are about all that are needed.
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exactly. why do you need to take apart the Delica? we shouldn't fail to understand that knife knuts make only a small fraction of the knife-buying public. tinkerers, an even smaller fraction. most of the target knife-buying public the delica is meant for want a good, reliable, dependable blade which will go from a lightweight inconspicuous object to a razor sharp blade w/o much ado. For $45, you can't find a better blade IMHO (the VG10 model that is).
 
Originally posted by anthony cheeseboro
If a maker doesn't want you to take the knife apart, it's probably best that you don't.
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Sure, because somebody in a factory several thousand miles away has a much better idea of what I desire from my hand tools than I do.

Perhaps this is just me, but when I buy a knife I am buying a starting point for the product that I actually desire to own; as I have yet to meet a tool made by somebody else that fit my needs perfectly.

I take apart, I tinker, I change, I improve; and eventually I end up with a product that is much closer to my needs than it was originally. I prefer products which are designed in a manner that makes this at least somewhat practical, and do not require outright destruction to get them into pieces..
 
If you want a knife that you can disassemble, spend some real money for a knife with more expensive construction. Don't complain about inexpensive mass production FRN knives that are clearly aimed at the general market. For what it's worth, I have taken knives apart, but they were knives made with screws. I have gone as far as ordering special drivers for some knives like my old Kershaw Mini Task if that was what they needed for upkeep. I have also diassembled modified, and adjusted customs by A.T. Barr, Larry Davidson, and Larry Chew, but they were knives that clearly designed to be taken and apart and woked on by those with the tools to do so.
 
Originally posted by NeedleRemorse
How do you hammer the pivot?
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Carefully tap the pivot pin with a hammer. Place the knife on a thick phonebook and place the thick phone book on something sturdy. Make sure you're not angry or near small lifeforms.
 
I haven't done it yet. My Delica has been opened and closed thousands of times and it's still as tight as can be.

Drunk is the best time, albeit a risky one. It's hard to whack a treasured Spyderco with a hammer until you've summoned up some liquid courage.
 
Originally posted by spyken
why do you need to take apart the Delica?
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Exactly. I don't need; I like. :D A phrase which, I'm sure, most knifenuts will understand.

I'm not complaining about Spydercos, just observing that they don't have all of what I'd desire in a perfect knife. I think that they're a good value for a user knife. So let's all take it easy. Peace. :)
 
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