Strange knife attributes make a knife "sheeple" friendly!

wetdog1911 said:
It's my sheeple knife, so I'm very careful about how I pull and open it.

Rob
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It is usually not the knife that is being measured, but, your comportment with the knife. Use it in a way that safely contributes to your job and few will care. Wave it around like an underbaked mall ninja and you will be singled out for corrective action.

n2s
 
ThreeWorlds said:
I didn't think wharncliffs got negative attention. Is that true? Then again, I see a lot of variation with wharnies, from the elegant Centofante 4 to ... *thinks* I dunno, I can't think of another production model, but I definitely know I've seen a whole bunch of fugly wharncliffs. Well, I suppose the BM Gravitator is very tactical looking. I didn't think recurve blades were that scary either; I thought most people liked the curvy lines?

Hawkbills scare the crap out of people.
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I think because the lay person see's wharncliffs as "pointy." Pointy translates to a stabbing implement. Because any other blade profile is less pointy, right? :rolleyes: Recurves probably just look unfamiliar to non-knife users, hence the intense fear and loathing.

I've learned, through watching others pull out knives in knife unfriendly environments, to just keep mine in my pocket. I'll reach for that broken pair of dull scissors to open something at work before pulling out my EDC.
 
Ring said:
My theory has always been the more expensive it LOOKs, the better off you are.
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Yeah, that's the way it seems to be going.

ThreeWorlds said:
I didn't think wharncliffs got negative attention. Is that true?
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I've been carrying a Wharncliffe custom and it's been OK, but isn't too pointy.

My only problem with "Pressing" the issue about getting the policy spelled out exactly is that:
1. It'll draw attention to myself.
2. People, generally, in the situation being forced to spell out a policy exactly, will always be more strict when they spell it out than it would've been if it had gone unspoken.

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I agree with Fulloflead. In my experience, when pressed to spell out a policy exactly, HR types are always more conservative in what they allow. If the rules are nebulous, as long as you do nothing to stir up an active complaint, you should be fine.

As several have pointed out, much of the issue by the "blade challenged" is their perception of your blade. And a big part of what they perceive is what you do with a blade and how you do it. A blade that might excite comment and retribution if handled with flash and show, may not excite such comment when handled deliberately and without show. And I think I agree with Ring on the 3" upper size limit. It has been my own guideline for a few years.

I work in an office environment and EDC a Native in my back pocket. I've had no trouble.
 
$260 at Goodwill, D.A.V., and the Salvation Army will get you lots of clean conservative office wear from the seriously clothing addicted. At least around here. All name brand, good stuff.

Which leaves me with money for a nice dressy sheeple knife, something like a DDR3 button lock with fancy scales.
 
When I was workin' for the county, I'd keep my EK #5 Bowie strapped to my side when doing the pipe insulation in the nursing home and court house and nobody blinked, I went into juvenile detention to work on a generator and they took my SAK, but let me in with a toolbox full of tools:confused: go figure.
 
tirod3 said:
$260 at Goodwill, D.A.V., and the Salvation Army will get you lots of clean conservative office wear from the seriously clothing addicted. At least around here. All name brand, good stuff.

Which leaves me with money for a nice dressy sheeple knife, something like a DDR3 button lock with fancy scales.
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Trust me, my $260 went a long way. I used to work in retail print advertising so I know where to shop. My vehicle is an 11 year old truck with 150K miles and my EDC is a $14 SAK if that's an indicator of my spending habbits. :D
 
I Got my wife an AG Russel 'funny knife' - whenever she takes it out to use the people are just facinated with the fact you can't tell it's a knife until you unfold it. Sharp AUW8 steel, wharncliffe blade - Just too unique and small to upset anyone.
 
I would look into flashlights and canes, and leave all knives at home, especially now that you got the attention of HR.

They have the power, therefore they're always right in any "debate" (I prefer another term, ends with - contest) of what a weapon is.
 
Well, stevekt, you share the same frugal habits. In the worst case the SAK is your best bet in EDC - two hand opening, shiny, red (I assume,) and very familiar with the general public.

Of course, they have no clip, most aren't one hand opening, and they are complex, exactly the opposite top three features most folks prefer in EDC. I'm still looking.
 
Just FYI, Gov't offices define "weapons" as any knife with more than 2.5 inches length, and that's official.

I work in such an office, but everyone here knows me, and loves me, so I carry whatever I want, although, I'm careful about flashing it around.

I do think that a pearl and/or damascus knife would be okay in almost any environment, as no one would consider such a thing of beauty a weapon.:rolleyes:

Just the other day, I opened my ZDP-Leek two-handed, and left my Scarab in my pocket, to cut open a bag of candy for a friend.

If I move up to the Regional Office, like I'm planning on doing, I'll have to re-think my practices, and buy a whole new wardrobe like you guys.

Oh, well...

Daniel
 
Maybe I'm living a sheltered life . .but do people actually around here actually get into knife fights? The whole tactical carry thing seems pretty theoretical to me (outside of Iraq). I mean, does anyone actually even recall knowing a guy that saved the day by stabbing a potential perp?

I wouldn't want to see the results of me winning a knife fight. Give me a "chair fight" anyday.
 
I've never thought about using my EDC (Leatherman Charge and other folders in my EDC rotation) for defensive purposes. It is pretty casual where I work and I wear either dress slacks and shirts or jeans and polos whatever/however I feel in the morning. For years I've carried a Leatherman on my belt. Recently, I've also carried another knife on my belt in a sheath. No problems in carrying/using it. I think it is just the state of mind people are in when they see a knife/tool. I've been very fortunate that the majority of people don't give it a second thought. BTW, I take out my "tools" only when necessary and I do it in a matter of fact way without any fanfare.
 
I am going through the same thing...work for the state...did work in the "back of the house" in supply, where everyone carries because of opening boxes, etc. I just got promoted to a shirt and tie job up front...and I hope this doesn't violate policy on this forum by mentioning it here...but I am putting up one of my larger knives for trade to get a nice little gentlemen's knife of some sort with some "bling" factor...lol.
 
mx125 said:
Maybe I'm living a sheltered life . .but do people actually around here actually get into knife fights?
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People tend to get careless with the difference in terminology, but self-defense, which may be necessary, and knife-fighting, which is always a choice, and a bad one, are very different circumstances.

Self-defense is getting yourself out of trouble unharmed.

Knife-fighting is imposing your will on someone using what the law defines as a lethal weapon.

I spent most of my life in New York City, which was not nearly as dangerous, even in the worst of times, as the media portrayed it. But I was ready to use a knife if necessary in self-defense. I was never willing to get into a fight for anything less than a threat on my life.

So I never did. :)
 
Esav Benyamin said:
People tend to get careless with the difference in terminology, but self-defense, which may be necessary, and knife-fighting, which is always a choice, and a bad one, are very different circumstances.

Self-defense is getting yourself out of trouble unharmed.

Knife-fighting is imposing your will on someone using what the law defines as a lethal weapon.

I spent most of my life in New York City, which was not nearly as dangerous, even in the worst of times, as the media portrayed it. But I was ready to use a knife if necessary in self-defense. I was never willing to get into a fight for anything less than a threat on my life.

So I never did. :)
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True enough. And I'm right there with you . . . as most here . . that whatever we had would be put to use if our life was on the line. However, I guess I wonder if the reality of the situation would make my edc all but moot. If a guy wants my money and has a knife or gun . .i doubt I'm pulling out my knife. I doubt the majority here would react differently . . and even fewer who actually drew would get out clean. I think only after he'd actually pulled the trigger or was sticking me with his knife would I realistically put mine to use. I suppose it's happened. I'd even think hard about introducing a knife when presented with a large crazy unarmed thief.

I have a real affinity for knives and certain guns . . and polish, fondle, massage and unhealthily admire them . .but if even 1 of the 1000's of forum readers has actually used one in anger, I'd be surprised. That's a good thing!! It's just that it would seem to me that the tactical carry thing is 99.9% fantasy .01% reality . .yet seems to account for a solid percentage of the Q&A and purchasing decision chats.

I'll stop now, however . .that wasn't the point of the thread and now I'm in left field. :)
 
mx125 said:
. .but if even 1 of the 1000's of forum readers has actually used one in anger, I'd be surprised. That's a good thing!! It's just that it would seem to me that the tactical carry thing is 99.9% fantasy .01% reality . .yet seems to account for a solid percentage of the Q&A and purchasing decision chats.

I'll stop now, however . .that wasn't the point of the thread and now I'm in left field. :)
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mx125, please do start a new thread with this topic. It is one I've been wanting to discuss for a while.
 
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