Stratofighter?

i might would try one if i could check it out first i have heard the F&F is "iffy" on them for one thing, if ya like that particular knife check out a extrema ratio nemisis its what dorkops copied to get the strato, another reason a lot of folks wont buy/have one FWIW. the ER F&F is always 100% so ya wouldnt have to hand pick it.
 
I try to stay away from companies that are unethical in their actions, and being as how the Dark Ops knives are blatent rip-offs of the Extrema Ratio's, I'll never buy one.

Thats just my own personal thoughts on it though, they may very well be good knives.
 
I think Cliff Stamp did a test on it and went away confirming that Dark Ops sucks. I think it failed the spine whack and its liner lock wouldn't stay locked.
 
FWIW, the Dark Ops series suffered a weak back lock, with hte lock bar engaging just by a hair. Wouldn´t trust them.
 
A while back, the Extrema Ratio that Dork ops stole the design from was on sale for less than $200. I don't know about now, though. I do know I would never buy a Dork Ops knife. I would much rather own the real thing than a ripoff with embarrassingly stupid marketing behind it.
 
the big question here as i see it: is the ER knife just as good when covertly deanimating stuff. and hows the bloodspray-control on those?
 
ginshun said:
I try to stay away from companies that are unethical in their actions, and being as how the Dark Ops knives are blatent rip-offs of the Extrema Ratio's, I'll never buy one.

Thats just my own personal thoughts on it though, they may very well be good knives.
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I am of like mind on this!!
 
Why is the bloke on that review standing on the knife? For the sort of work he does, he needs a fixed blade, not a folder. I work search and rescue, and most of the times a SAK is all I need, since I always carry a fixed blade on the job.

Anyway, as has been pointed out, Dark Ops ripped Extrema Ratio off, so knife users should not give them money and reward their fraud. Besides that, the sort of advertising DO resorts to makes the whole knife community look bad
 
Franciscomv said:
Why is the bloke on that review standing on the knife? For the sort of work he does, he needs a fixed blade, not a folder. I work search and rescue, and most of the times a SAK is all I need, since I always carry a fixed blade on the job.
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Brownie? He probably got the knife for free, in exchange for his endorsement and soul.
 
M Wadel said:
the big question here as i see it: is the ER knife just as good when covertly deanimating stuff. and hows the bloodspray-control on those?
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I don't know if this is what you are looking for. I have successfully deanimated weeds, including poison ivy, with my ER Nemesis. I can't speak for bloodspray-control, but it did fling urushiol all over my arm, )@^^^!#.
 
Theres so many better knives for 200.00 or less,that the stratofighter would be the last knife on my list.....
 
I know that "copying" a design is lame and their advertising is over the top but does anyone have and first hand experince with this knife? I am/was (I'm not too sure now) considering this knife and I haven't found anything terrible about it. I also happen to own their Hellfire X-11 flashlight which is better than a Surefire and was a great deal at $100. Judging by my experience they make some pretty good stuff.
 
goldie said:
Theres so many better knives for 200.00 or less,that the stratofighter would be the last knife on my list.....
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Exactly.

Without doing any testing, I can assure you that DO is not all they claim to be simply because some of what they claim to be (specially coated to be invisible on infrared imaging equipment) is just impossible. Once you see a lie like that, you just have to question everything else they say. With so many other comparable knives out there in the same price range who don't spice their publicity with obvious lies, why bother with DO?

Especially in this paramilitary/tactical market, knives should speak for themselves. Any knife that needs an imaginative copywritter has got to be questioned.

If the knife needs an invented, trumped-up back story to sell it, then ya' gotta' wonder about it.

Why buy a knife ya' gotta' wonder about when there are so many other fine options?
 
Hammer27 said:
I know that "copying" a design is lame and their advertising is over the top but does anyone have and first hand experince with this knife? I am/was (I'm not too sure now) considering this knife and I haven't found anything terrible about it. I also happen to own their Hellfire X-11 flashlight which is better than a Surefire and was a great deal at $100. Judging by my experience they make some pretty good stuff.
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yep, the F&F is iffy on them, a guy i know has a couple of them and one is ok/one isnt - it has lock probs IIRC, i surely wouldnt want one unless i could hand pick it who knows if dorkops warranty is any good??

why do ya say the light is better than SF? i could see MAYBE as good but better? thats saying something...........how come do ya think that?
 
On its website, under “Press & Awards,” Dark Ops advertises the fact that its StratoFighter folder won the “2005 Tactical Knife of the Year Award” from American Sporting Trade magazine. Is it just me or has it ever bothered anyone else that American Sporting Trade is published by Pyramount North America, which just so happens to be Dark Ops’ marketing firm?
 
Biohazard said:
On its website, under “Press & Awards,” Dark Ops advertises the fact that its StratoFighter folder won the “2005 Tactical Knife of the Year Award” from American Sporting Trade magazine. Is it just me or has it ever bothered anyone else that American Sporting Trade is published by Pyramount North America, which just so happens to be Dark Ops’ marketing firm?
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HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
 
Hammer27 said:
I know that "copying" a design is lame and their advertising is over the top but does anyone have and first hand experince with this knife? I am/was (I'm not too sure now) considering this knife and I haven't found anything terrible about it. I also happen to own their Hellfire X-11 flashlight which is better than a Surefire and was a great deal at $100. Judging by my experience they make some pretty good stuff.
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no first hand experiences, but there is a thread somewhere on here with pics of one that sombody had disassembled, and the lock was just barely engaging.

Given the iffy F&F, the unethical design practices and the rediculous marketing, it just seems more logical to me to stay away from them.

If you really like the design that much, spend the exrta money and buy an actual Extrema Ratio, instead of the rip-off.
 
I say that its better than the surefire because its surefire competitor is the E2D Defender which is a little more money, has less than half the light output with the same run time, and has a poor excuse for an impact device called a "crenelated strike bevel". The X-11 has the glass breakers (which will cave in ones skull) its bigger (which counts in this field) and can be mounted to a weapon. Now i know that you can mount a surefire but it will get powder spray all over the lens and the X-11's lense is set back so that won't happen.
I'm sure I sound like I work for Dark Ops ( I don't) but that's the thought process that went into my choosing them over surefire
 
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