Stratofighter?

have ya actually compared the 2 or are ya basing the lumen ratings on darops and SFs lumen ratings? if thats the case lotsa folks claim higher lumens than SF, i have compared inovas and SF for one and the SF with a lower lumen rating is brighter, go figure.

one of the resons i like a E2e (similar to the 'D) is the fact that its small, i also have a Z3/Z2/M3/M2/etc if i want a larger light.

i have a M2 mounted on a M4 and havent ever had nor heard of probs with powder spray, i mean it gets on there but it wipes right off and i cant imagine enough to actually dim the light though, maybe so i guess.

dont get me wrong i'm sure its not a bad light just not convinced it beats a SF .....
 
I have a stratofighter , actually 2 of them :)

It's huge knife guys ,my opinion based on inlays glued to handle , its aint so accurate job. Also I needed to tight the bolts when I got them hehe
 
SIFU1A said:
have ya actually compared the 2 or are ya basing the lumen ratings on darops and SFs lumen ratings? if thats the case lotsa folks claim higher lumens than SF, i have compared inovas and SF for one and the SF with a lower lumen rating is brighter, go figure.

one of the resons i like a E2e (similar to the 'D) is the fact that its small, i also have a Z3/Z2/M3/M2/etc if i want a larger light.

i have a M2 mounted on a M4 and havent ever had nor heard of probs with powder spray, i mean it gets on there but it wipes right off and i cant imagine enough to actually dim the light though, maybe so i guess.

dont get me wrong i'm sure its not a bad light just not convinced it beats a SF .....
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I actually have compared both so my ratings aren't incorrect (no offense taken). I can see why you'd like the smaller light but as heavy duty tactical/defense light the hellfire X-11 is way better than the surefire E2D defender. I can carry the X-11 pretty easily on my person so I don't need 2 lights. Regarding the powder spray i agree with you but i find it really annoying and don't like to think that it may jam something eventually(ie the lockout).
 
I keep telling you guys. I want the toughest knife for 200.Like to maybe chop rocks, or to stand on or use as an emergency piton.for 200 or under. Emerson?
 
they look a little to mall ninja for me, just my 2 cents!

MBC77

get a buck strider or a swamp rat rat trap. you wont be disappointed with either, even the buck strider tarani, people harp about its weak and thin liner lock, but i got one on a whim and low and behold the liner lock is as thick as a rat trap and i could not get a lock failure to occur even after banging on the spine with a plastic mallet. the tarani goes for like 100$, the rat trap for 170$. if you got the extra cash get the rat trap. better finish on the blade ;)

edit, if your going to chop rocks get the buck strider taranni, it will stand up to abuse better and you wont feel so bad for destroying it if you can manage it!
 
MBC77 said:
I keep telling you guys. I want the toughest knife for 200.Like to maybe chop rocks, or to stand on or use as an emergency piton.for 200 or under. Emerson?
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Sorry for getting off topic. I agree with the Emerson selection...they are pretty good. I think that the Extrema Ratio knives look pretty good but are a little expensive. (By the way, read their stuff sometime, its almost as bad as DO.) Cold Steel makes some out-there claims and they don't cost too much... you might look into them. The Kabar mule is not the toughest but i haven;t had any problems with it and its only like $40.
 
Can't carry a fixed blade while climbing. Thats why I said repededly ,the toughest FOLDER
 
Tight spots sometimes, getting hung up. Lots of reason. You don't climb much do you. I could carry a fixed on longer easier climbs/hikes. But for strait shots up a verticaal I'd father have a folder clipped to my pocket. I guess I'll go for an emerson cqb-7 super or one of the ats34 buck/striders
 
So in a "tight spot" you have more room to get to a folder and deploy it than to access a small fixed blade? Seems contrary to logic. But whatever works for ya slick.

http://gorp.away.com/gorp/activity/climb/expert/exp062701.htm

The knife I carry in the zippered pocket of my chalk bag is tiny, lightweight, and really, really sharp. I don't think there are any particular features a climber is looking for other than perhaps a loop that would make easy attachment to the harness with a mini-biner. Nor do I think the blade needs to be any longer then an inch-and-a-half.

The most common use on a climb is removing faded rappel slings—an important community service. But the knife will also be ready to cut a rope, fashion a rope and stick litter, remove clothes or harness from an injured climber, or slice your salami at lunch.
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With regards to the Buck/Strider/Tarani...
I've used mine at work to strip thick wire, cut heavy cardboard and it still shaves. The blade is hard to scuff, and the knife cleans up easily. It's comfortable to hold and can be snapped open as quick as an automatic. It's an excellent work/toolbox knife, and it's nasty looking so it'll appeal to/frighten off mall ninjas.
It's money well spent.
 
Usually I would agree with the arguements made above that the Dark Ops knives are rip offs of Extrema Ratio designs, and should not be purchased for that reason. However, have you seen what the Euro/Dollar exchange rate is these days? Last I checked, a Euro was costing around $1.32.

Under these circumstances, most Americans aren't going to be able to afford Extrema Ratio or any other European brand. If a US company is copying a European knife that Americans can't afford to buy in the first place, are they really ripping off the European company?
 
W.T. Beck said:
Under these circumstances, most Americans aren't going to be able to afford Extrema Ratio or any other European brand.
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Like Opinel, Victorinox, Mikov ... ?

It's not the exchange rate, it's the price itself. ER could sell their knives at a slight discount to make up for the disparity in the rates -- which could be a US scam to shut Europeans out of our markets, the same way China shuts us out of theirs. :)

Manufacturers build this into MSRP. It gives them room to maneuver when exchange rates fluctuate the wrong way, or an economic slump impacts consumer buying habits.

Why would a buyer pay more for a Strider than for an Extrema Ratio of possibly equal or greater durability? It isn't all price, and exchange rates are irrelevent, because when it is the price, it's the price you pay, whatever goes into it.
 
I guess the exchange rate doesn't make that much difference in the case of the cheaper knives like Opinel.
 
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