Strictly personal gripes with some knives

longbow

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Well what the heck. Nothing doing tonight so figured I would write this up and see the response I get. First off this post isn't to piss any one in particular off. Just my thoughts and observations through the years on what I like in a knife be it a user, poser, looker or what have you.

Compound grinds on knives. You know sharpened choils, right angles or very acute blade junctures, non functional saws tops(or bottoms), and small hard to hold on to knives. These could be neck knives, knives hidden on your person like under your collar type thing, steel shanks etc. etc. I think you get the idea.

First off compound grinds on blades. Something where you might have a recurve leading into a chizel grind and finishing with a straight edge. First question I have is how do you keep it sharp, and what do you use when you need to sharpen it? Are they even that practical? Personally I like a knife with at least the bottom edge of the blade to have a nice long straight portion as it relates in size to the rest of the blade. It can have a slight cure or slight recurve to it. It can also have some serrations at the back of the blade if need be. My 99 CQC7a is a pse as well as my Wegner, and I don't mind them abit. As for compound grinds it to took me forever is seems to learn to sharpen my CQC7b especially getting the tip correct. As long as I have my Lansky handy it poses no problem.

Next gripe is with neck knives. I can understand carrying one under your shirt or jacket when out of doors doing some woods craft or hunting/fishing. What I don't get is the rage they seem to be with alot of afficianados. I have never seen anyone around here carrying one openly. Now at gunshows I have seen this. But step out of the arena/building and the knife disappears under a shirt. Which leads me to this paradox. Usually carried on a ball chain or cord. If the shit hits the fan and you need it how the heck are ya going to reach up under your shirt quick enough to get it? Not only that but if you feel the need to fill your hand and it is attached to the cord especially I imagine that you'll be thinking of some way to stop the choking other than reaching for the inaccessable knife. Now I have owned some "good" neck knives but have not kept any, save for one. That is the REKAT fang. I gave that to my oldest. He thought he might carry it when doing lights/sound for shows when in his harness. But he quit carrying it for whatever reason.

The next gripe I have with neck knives is how does one get a good grip on them? I have bi lateral carpal tunnel so I need something I can get a positive hold on and know it is my hand. A piece of steel tang be it long or short does not do that for me. Leverage for a cut is another concern I would have. I would be afraid of the knife sliding in my hand. You know the blade backing off of whatever I am attempting to cut. I could probably go on but won't.

All comments are welcome and thanks for sharing your thoughts. keepem sharp:D
 
longbow said:
Well what the heck. Nothing doing tonight so figured I would write this up and see the response I get. First off this post isn't to piss any one in particular off. Just my thoughts and observations through the years on what I like in a knife be it a user, poser, looker or what have you.

Compound grinds on knives. You know sharpened choils, right angles or very acute blade junctures, non functional saws tops(or bottoms), and small hard to hold on to knives. These could be neck knives, knives hidden on your person like under your collar type thing, steel shanks etc. etc. I think you get the idea.

First off compound grinds on blades. Something where you might have a recurve leading into a chizel grind and finishing with a straight edge. First question I have is how do you keep it sharp, and what do you use when you need to sharpen it? Are they even that practical? Personally I like a knife with at least the bottom edge of the blade to have a nice long straight portion as it relates in size to the rest of the blade. It can have a slight cure or slight recurve to it. It can also have some serrations at the back of the blade if need be. My 99 CQC7a is a pse as well as my Wegner, and I don't mind them abit. As for compound grinds it to took me forever is seems to learn to sharpen my CQC7b especially getting the tip correct. As long as I have my Lansky handy it poses no problem.

Next gripe is with neck knives. I can understand carrying one under your shirt or jacket when out of doors doing some woods craft or hunting/fishing. What I don't get is the rage they seem to be with alot of afficianados. I have never seen anyone around here carrying one openly. Now at gunshows I have seen this. But step out of the arena/building and the knife disappears under a shirt. Which leads me to this paradox. Usually carried on a ball chain or cord. If the shit hits the fan and you need it how the heck are ya going to reach up under your shirt quick enough to get it? Not only that but if you feel the need to fill your hand and it is attached to the cord especially I imagine that you'll be thinking of some way to stop the choking other than reaching for the inaccessable knife. Now I have owned some "good" neck knives but have not kept any, save for one. That is the REKAT fang. I gave that to my oldest. He thought he might carry it when doing lights/sound for shows when in his harness. But he quit carrying it for whatever reason.

The next gripe I have with neck knives is how does one get a good grip on them? I have bi lateral carpal tunnel so I need something I can get a positive hold on and know it is my hand. A piece of steel tang be it long or short does not do that for me. Leverage for a cut is another concern I would have. I would be afraid of the knife sliding in my hand. You know the blade backing off of whatever I am attempting to cut. I could probably go on but won't.

All comments are welcome and thanks for sharing your thoughts. keepem sharp:D

The only thing I think you should consider is the "neck knife". Not all knives are made a "neck knife". I carry a Frosts Mora around my neck when backpacking. The reason I do is my pack has a waist strap and makes it very uncomfortable to carry my normal belt knife. I do agree on the inconvenience of a s/d neck knife. Hard to pull a knife out from under your sweatshirt in a HURRY.
 
my "neck knife" hangs around my neck but low... near my bely buckle. it's ver yeas to get to :thumbup:
 
Theres soo many good places to stash a knife, the neck isn't my favorite...so much easier to grab at the waistline understress for me
 
I wore a neck knife when I worked night security. It was a last ditch weapon. If I needed my neck knife, I was in deep doo doo. But, there IS a reason for them, and they DO serve a purpose!
 
I have two neck knives, Becker Necker and Spyderco/Janich/Snody.

The Necker is a disappointing '3-finger' grip, but the handle on the Ronin is really quite secure - and the thumb-serrations make it even better.

The Ronin is an outstanding knife, whether as a neck knife or as all-around fixed-blade wharncliffe general pupose slicer.
 
If you are outside in a Midwest Winter, and I am -- often, a light knife carried around the neck but under the outer layer is very practical as a tool.

You sure won't be carrying it on a belt, unless that's under several layers of clothing.

I suppose it could go in an outside pocket, but the "necker" carry under the outer layer makers for a warmer handle if you're bare-handin' it, and a pocket "fast draw" seems problamatic. Hell, at my age, using a knife as a weapon seems problamatic -- especially given the alternatives in Ohio these days.

So I carry a Helle puukko necker style -- and never notice it's there until I need it. And it provides a four-finger grip.

As for "necker" knives, some of them feel pretty insecure in my hand unless restricted to draw cuts. I suppose I'm most happy with my Greco, but that's why I bought it.
 
A really small necker like the Hideaway or Bitteroot is almost like jewelry for me (especially with the red, white, and blue beads I strung on the Bitteroot's chain :)).

A necker doesn't have to be buried under a sweatshirt. If you wear one under a buttoned shirt, you can pull it out between buttons.

If it is for self defense, something like a Mission MPU is light, corrosion-proof, and has enough handle for a good grip. Cordwrap it for a better grip if you like.
 
I had a neck sheath made for my Solar Arc. It has no clips on it, and I wanted to be able to have it on me, when I am in scrubs. And a neck sheath was the perfect solution for that!! My Solar Arc IS a folder, by the way.
 
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