Strider GB: An overview & review

[Mongrel]

you have the patience of a Saint man...

You must feel like a pre-school teacher with a room full of Ritalin dependent tots...

Anyway, thanks for all of you hard work and effort.

Mongrel

 

[KnifeBomber]

Spark,
Herein lies the problem. I cannot tollerate a known fraud posting claims about doing tests on knives from a company that has done tremendous things for me personnally. While his "results" do not seem bad for Strider, the fact that someone of such dubious nature is making claims as to Strider's value is detrimental to their good name. I will not tolerate anyone doing harm to their company's good name. Since Dennis has decided that this is going to be his new home, I find it my duty to my friends at Strider to speak out against him and his fraudulent nature. So, I make this tough decision. I am asking publically for you to make a decision. Please remove him from this forum. He will not now, nor ever be tolerated here. I have been here for years as a paying member of good standing and am asking for some backup on this. His posting about the verocity of Strider knives is like Charles Manson speaking on behalf of the Beach Boys. He may speak well, but why in the hell would you want him doing so?! Some people do not know his history here and may be led amiss. I cannot tolerate this. Please either remove me or remove him, but one of us has to go. I'm sorry for putting you on the spot like this in public, it is not how I wanted this to happen. I guess when I try to come back, I'll know your answer. Thanks for the good times.

 

[Reed]

I don't usually get involved in these type of threads, but Spark, I have to agree with Ryan, I talk with Duane once in a while and consider him a friend and the Strider guys are top-notch. If this guy is claiming he has a knife and is posting reviews on it, he better have it. Saying it measures .25 inches is proof that he knows a little about Strider Knives, but not about the folders. I own one, I respect and support the company and I don't want to see them get dirtied by anything some troll spouts off.

If you don't like opinions, ban me, but this is mine.

 

[Manila Folder]

GB's are NEAT..... but you're right. The AR's blade is much more utilitarian. Get one..... slice & dice

 

[Kampfjaeger]

Guys, I too am guilty of feeding the trolls... And I did this just after I advised everyone not to answer to his posts or discuss matters with him in any way shape or form. So I guess that makes me a bit of a hypocrite in this case.

However, KB, I think it is a little unfair to put Spark in this kind of spot. I can't believe that I am saying this because I'm on the same page as you. I hate to say it, but I feel that our actions have provided Sweetser with more power than he ever had when he was skulking around under a fake name and telling all sorts of self-aggrandizing lies. When it was just that, he was an annoyance and a pain in the ass. However, we have now allowed him to cause far greater rifts in our community than his wildest dreams could have fantasized.

Strider knives stand on their own merit. They have their own reputation beyond that of this forum in the professional world. Just because a punk likes to shoot his mouth off and wants to say great things about SK (and buddy, I don't really care one way or the other if you have one or not) SK is not going to be negatively impacted.

If Mr. Strider feels that the negative publicity provided by the postings of a known individual of low character, I'm certain that he will notify Spark and take matters up for himself. Please reconsider your ultimatum.

David

 

[Ranger757]

As a new member to these forums, it is my place to listen rather that to speak out, but I feel that I should express that Knifebomber has a valid argument here. It's tough to find good advice about knives where I am from, and I come to bladeforums to reap the good advice of experienced men like Ryan and other quality members. Had I not read the posts by Knifebomber and others who hold Mr. Sweetsner in such low regard, I would have read Mr. Sweetners posts without adding the proverbial grain of salt that they so desperately need. A quick search turned up all the information I ever needed to know about "16,452" as well as the past damage that he has inflicted with his continious and pathological lies. This is not a personal attack directed at 16,452, or whoever you are, However, I still feel the obligation, as well as the responsibilty, to inform others who and what you really are. I am 23 years old, only a few years older than you are Dennis, and I work hard for my money, respect my elders, and know that you can learn a hell of a lot more by listening instead of speaking out. Unfortunately, thanks to your refusal to abide by these rules, it seems you may have destroyed my opportunity to learn from a member like Knifebomber, a member who gained my respect in a way that you never could, no matter how many posts you have besides your name, or whatever brand name blade you choose to embrace for the week. Knifebomber, like others on this forum whose advice I listen to and learn from is a real person. No screen names makes him who he is, no knife makes him tougher, no story makes him bigger. If you would accept this and apply it to yourself, you will go much farther, and be a much better person.
Knifebomber and others, thanks for the heads up. Us younger, inexperienced guys appriciate knowing who does and doesn't know what they are talking about. I fully understand and support your position. If I failed to inform others of a potential danger, the hurt that could be caused by my silence would be on my conscience.

 

[Zach Chalmers]

I have to agree with Ryan. The presence of him here is intolerable. He is a known liar and a fraud.

The reason I enjoy the Strider Forum is the caliber of the people. It is a environment of people that respect each other and enjoy the same things.

Zach

 

[AluminumOvercas]

I like this guy.

"Ranger757"

 

[Spark]

I'm not removing anyone without just cause.

Dennis has expressed to me in no uncertain terms that he wants to make a clean break from his previous actions. I have advised him that if this is the case, he will be welcome here, provided he does not step on his johnson. Should he do so, he will be removed without hesitation.

Ryan, if anyone else had made the above "review" how would you have reacted? I understand your trepidation, however, the ultimatum is uncalled for. If you feel you cannot civilly discuss the merits of Strider knives, then do not discuss them at all. That is your choice. Do not ask me to make your decisions for you - that is not the sign of maturity. I am not your parent, you can make your own decisions.

You can either discuss Striders, or you can choose not to do so. Flaming will not be tolerated. If you want to insult him, choose another venue; I suggest email. The forums are not the place for it.

You can't always choose who you come in contact with. You can choose how you handle the situation. I would hope that we all display maturity and professionalism.

Please note, I am <b>not</b> defending Dennis, nor am I offering an excuse for his past actions. He will have to reap what he has sown, and I have a feeling he will be paying for his mistakes for quite a while. If I am willing to give him a last chance, especially after all the trouble he has caused me specificall, <b>anyone</b> should.

Now, you have several choices.
You can either take it at face value that Dennis wants to make the change, and give him the benefit of the doubt, and help him become a productive member of the forums. My suggestion would be that you warn others to take anything he says with a grain of salt - helping him stay on the right course.
Or, you can choose not to, and ignore him until such time that he does screw up, and alert a moderator.
Or you can remove yourself from the site and choose not to be in any way involved - essentially cutting off your nose to spite your face.

That is your choice. I would hope that you make the mature choice.

Kevin

[Edited to fix the typo]

 

[Eich1911]

Originally posted by Spark
Please note, I am defending Dennis....

Yeah that about sums it up. Freudian slip?

This guy is a bag of crap. We know hes a liar and a bag of crap. Spark I still cant understand how and why you allow him to participate in your forums. I know ignore it and it goes away. But that doesnt work with this guy. Hes going to continue to lie his ass off untill you devote the 10 seconds a day it would take to ban him at every registration attempt. Hell I bet there are 15 others out there willing to ban this bag of crap everytime he registers.

Spark lets not degrade the conversation into what the last one became. Lets move on and start talking about kick ass knives and gear again. Ban his 2 confirmed user names and get rid of the problem. If sturing up this much trouble is not worthy of yanking on the short leash, then I dont know what is.

Are you willing to loose more members over this? I mean your talking about very productive helpfull people, over a proven liar. I just dont understand your logic. I know your point of view is that we are fanning the flames by continuing the debate, but with banned under his name, there would be no debate.

Screw it, youll do what you want. It is "your" forum, run it how you wish. But at least try and see where the people replying to this thread are coming from. Go with your gut, be honest in how you feel about the situation, and I dont think anyone can fault you for how you "rule". As you did what you felt was right. But rule wisely.

Lets get this over and done with one way or the other, and start talking knives,

 

[Spark]

Ok, I typo'ed. However, Eich, this is your one warning.

I have no desire to waste further time on arguing with you, because it would be nothing other than time wasted. I've seen your posts on USN, I've seen them here. You are doing nothing more than pouring gasoline on the fire. My patience for this is at an end.

Yes, he's a liar. Yes he's seriously ****ed himself up. Yes, he has only himself to blame.

If members choose that they would rather leave than help the moderators do their job, so be it. Flaming and paranoia do not productive members make. Right now Eich you are being part of the problem. You now have the opportunity to be part of the solution.

What I do not want is to not give him the opportunity to make right his past wrongs. What I do not want is flames and harassment on this forum. What you do off the site is your own business. What happens here is mine.

I've already said that we are seriously monitoring Dennis. That should be enough for you and everyone else. If he ****s up, I expect a flood of emails reporting this event. You can rest assured that he will be banned fortwith and will be continually be rebanned thereafter. Of that you have my solemn promise.

Kevin

 

[Eich1911]

Spark,
I dont think you took my post in the spirit it was intended.

I ment it to be sort of a offering of goodwill, while still stating what my thoughts on the subject were. I was trying to cool the flames, not fan them. Oh well guess it will be easy to ban my sorry trolling ass, as I have a static IP.

As to your typo, I ment to put a wink thing after it, but guess I used up my one warning by quoting you.
Lets move on to the next subject, as this one seems to have hit a brick wall.
Kyle

 

[Troy Webber]

You will spend all of this time threatening your good paying members to defend this little lying puke.All some of us want is a place to hang out away from all the B.S.For me it will not be here.**** you Spark.Have fun running this place into the ground.(Yeah,Yeah,Yeah-I know:just ignore Dennis and he'll go away.)
troy

Edited to make sure I get banned: Dennis-you are a lying little dickless troll.You never buried your imaginary knife in a flowerpot you F-ucking loser.Hey Spark-do you realize how many truly good people have left the BFC?Maybe Dennis just gives good head?

 

[SOX]

If this is the knothead from a while back that kept getting banned because he was posting stuff under Strider, and strider related products and putting "crap" in the actual posts, then I am sorry that I even answered his posts.
Ryan, he will dig his own grave, most knotheads usaually do.

 

[Spark]

He already did. He's banned now.

As is Troy Webber; Trolls get equal treatment.