Strider -or- Microtech

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Was lookin around this morning at strider and didnt notcie they made folders... I am confused now as to which will be ma next purchase. Strider folder or a microtech socom elite? :confused: :confused:
 
That's like comparing ski's to a snowboard. Both will get you down the hill but they are completely different animals.

You would need to give some guidlines as to what you were going to do with the knife before most of us could even make a suggestion.
 
I am a loyal client to both companies. It's not really like 'apples to oranges,' it's more like 'Ferrari's to Lamborgini's.'

The fit/finish and edge quality of the Microtech products is unsurpassed. It should be; any knife sharpened by a guy named 'Marfione' ought to be the best in the world. Tony is the best. I'm anal, and yet some of the knives in my collection wear their original edges; I could never improve upon them. The materials like 154-CM, titanium and S30V show me that this company never stops trying. I'll be their client forever.

That being said, if I ever scratched a Microtech, I would cry long into the night! To continue my analogy, imagine the first scratch on your Lamborgini.

Like everyone else, I need a knife to cut and slice things, and I never know what those things may be, or how muddy or wet they may be. I carry a Strider AR or the new SnG2 everyday. Sure, I hate to ding them, but I hate to ding my F-150, too. But in the final analysis, a truck is a truck, and a Strider is a crowbar.

Again, I'll be Mick's client forever.
 
I agree with Ichabod. With Strider, you get high tech materials, hard task-specific designs, tank-like constuction.

Most knives that are pretty, loses a lot of it's cache when you start using them. Striders are meant to be used, built to be used and they have the warranty to back it up.

The tigerstriping camoflauges the blade when it is drawn, it also hides scratches and usage wear pretty well. I think the stonewash finish hides scratches well too.

I like Microtech knives as well, but I think they would get ugly alot faster from use.
 
You can get a great knife from either compnay. In my mind it all depends on what you really want. An AR will cut, and is pretty much bombproof. Any knife from Microtech will also cut well, but is not as strudy as the Strider folders. The Strider knives are also much bigger and heavier. If you wouldn't, or couldn't carry one it won't do you much good.

If you are looking for a more reasonable bulletproof EDC then I would lean more towards the SnG then the AR or GB, mainly because of size. If you want a nice toy(read high cool factor:cool: , get a microtech auto.
 
I want a knife that can take "real life abuse" I dont mean throwing it into a 55 gallon drum every day for fun, but something that is built STRONG, can take alot of abuse, and the stress of a big strong arm holding to do different tasks.. I need heavy duty tip strength, and a basic no bull-sh!t knife.
 
If all you want is a basic bulletproof knife that will take use and abuse, by all means go for the Strider over the Microtech. They are built to withstand much more use than the Microtech knives.
 
curiuos what metals do strider use,, and can I get it in any kind I want?
.. thx
 
Originally posted by Aniketos
curiuos what metals do strider use,, and can I get it in any kind I want?
.. thx

My vote: I went Strider with the SnG and never looked back.

They have switched (are switching) to S30V from ATS-34 and some BG-42. Just about all of their new blades are in S30V, with a Bos heat-treat.

You can probably request ATS-34 still but I am guessing it will be a custom job and will take a LONG time.

-j
 
I have Striders in ATS34, BG42, and S30V.

The BG42 and S30V stay sharp longer than ATS34.

S30V is very tough and probably represents the highest evolution of this breed of stainless steel at this point.
 
Originally posted by Aniketos
...something that is built STRONG, can take alot of abuse, and the stress of a big strong arm holding to do different tasks.. I need heavy duty tip strength, and a basic no bull-sh!t knife.

Cutting performace means nothing to you?

I'd get the Strider then too.

This is not a dig on Striders but IMO they do not have the cutting finesse needed in an EDC because of their geometry. A super thick, wide blade does not make a good cutting knife, period.

One of my favortie neck knives is a Busse Assault shaker. Great little knife but I can hardly cut a piece of cardboard in half with it because the blade is so thick the cardboard I just cut is pinching the spine like a vise.
 
well isnt cutting performance pretty much a given? I mean this is a knife forum. Not trying to be a wise guy but I kinda thought cutting performance withen high end folders was something not even thought about.
 
Originally posted by Aniketos
well isnt cutting performance pretty much a given? I mean this is a knife forum. Not trying to be a wise guy but I kinda thought cutting performance withen high end folders was something not even thought about.

No, I don't think you're being a wise guy at all. I just would hate to see you make the mistake of thinking just because a knife is high quality and built like a tank it is going to cut just as well as any knife.

99% of the people who own any big - overbuilt knife (myself included) will never even come close to using it to the breaking point without doing something stupid (IE: prying off a 2x4 screwed to a tree).

What you need to do as a knife buyer is balance what's important to you with the qualities of the knife and choose from there.

Anyone who tells you a Strider will cut every bit as well as a Microtech UDT is wrong. The UDT has a thinner blade, sharper tip and will cut circles around a Strider. But the UDT will not pry lids off of paint cans all day or do light chopping worth a damn.

That's why most of us own many knives - so we can pick the right one based off of what we are doing that day.

I always have a 3.5" or larger folder clipped to my right pocket - but I also always have a small thin bladed folder loose in my left pocket. That way I always have something for for delicate cutting and don't have to worry so much about the performance of my big folder at doing lighter work.

Hope that helps a little.
 
Originally posted by Aniketos
well isnt cutting performance pretty much a given? I mean this is a knife forum. Not trying to be a wise guy but I kinda thought cutting performance withen high end folders was something not even thought about.

Not necessarily. There's always a tradeoff with stock thickness and the edge thickness.

Think about a thin kitchen meat knife. It's extremely thin, long, cuts like a dream, but wouldn't ever stand up to any kind of prying, or for that matter, it would probably bend in thick cardboard.

On the other hand, if you used an axe, you could pop bits of wood, chop with it, but it's not going to cut thin slices of meat.

Striders are thick. Most of them are 1/4" stock at the spine. A sabre hollow grind combined with a thick primary edge leads to some difficulty in cutting. For example, the Buck Strider, albeit a super heavy duty knife, doesn't cut cardboard easily because the hollow ground shoulders get caught up in the nonflexible cardboard. This is despite the fact that mine was shaving sharp.

I have a full-bevel ground SnG, and it cuts like a dream. On the other hand, I have a hollow-ground WP, and although it slices paper and pops hair with the best of them, it just doesn't cut boxes as well as some number of other knives.

Would I dare do the same things with those other knives that I've done with the WP? Well... I would think twice. Not with a Strider.

You might want to handle one first before getting too excited about them. The tanto points, for example, are not sharp on the front edge, intentionally.

They're not lightsabres. They're bulldozers.

:D

edit>> cpirtle, looks like we crossposted and said the same thing :D

-jon
 
well I like the fact the strider is a bulldozer construction. Pretty much everyone agrees? I am not into cutting boxes all day and such but in my life Ive always put more stress and abuse on things. Not so much abuse as throwing my knives into concrete, just overall stuff. My amphibian is a baddass knife but for some reason I just am afraid to try using it as a everyday basher. I dont know if I am making any sence here, but basicly i want a knife that WILL NOT BREAK !!! Will a Strider take more abuse then a Microtech? And which will slice better?
 
Originally posted by Aniketos
Will a Strider take more abuse then a Microtech?

Yes.

Definitely, no doubt about it. You will be pleasantly surprised at Strider construction.

Your reasons are the same that lead to me choose them, and I think you will not be let down.

Keep in mind the AR/GB are BIG and not terribly ergonomic. The G10 slabs -will- rip up your jeans. The SnG is smaller, and more managable.

Also, if you manage to bust something, Strider is very amiable to fixing it.

-j
 
Yes, a Strider will take more abuse - by a long shot.

No it will not slice better - by a long shot.
 
I bought a Strider-Buck SB2, and that thing is practically indestructible:cool: It has a big thick blade, about 1/4". I reprofiled the edge to 25 degrees and it cuts great for me. It's now my on duty carry and I abuse the crap out of this knife. I've picked door locks, cut flexi-cuffs, and everything else I've put it through. It has not failed me yet! The action is smooth, the grip is solid, and it is IMHO the toughest linerlock knife I've run into yet. You will not be disappointed in any Strider, built by them or by Buck. The only caveat is that it doesn't come in any serrated edge. If you can get by that, then no worries.:D In the end, look at the knife if you can and go from there. It's all personal preference from there. The Strider-Buck is less expensive solution and very beefy, take a look:)
 
as sharkman stated above by reprofiling.. can I make a strider slice as well as a microtech?
 
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