Strider packaging

[straitr]

If they sell, then why change? From what I understand they sell quite well, thus I don't see them changing their marketing strategy.

That's what I was thinking. There have been people that have complained, and I'm not saying they don't have a point, but there hasn't been one person say "I didn't buy a Strider because it comes in a baggie".

I won't buy a Strider due to other reasons already discussed, but if I did waffle on my principles and buy one I'd be put off by the baggie too. That being said, I see no reason for him to change because it's not stopping people from giving him their money.

 

[Sonnydaze]

I like RiverRat84's idea.."shipping knives in ancient ivory carved boxes." I enjoy his ideas; he's a realist.
Some folks like fancy boxes. Some folks hate Mick. Some folks will claim that his baggies are fake plastic.
Now...I would like 'em to come with a pivot tool so I don't have to buy one for $50.
But his knives are great TOOLS. I've had a lot of them.
Lowe's doesn't sell me a hammer in a fancy box either.
Kinda hard to read all these pages...I got through by skimming a lot. After a while, ya gotta smile.
People are funny.

 

[JPD1998]

That's what I was thinking. There have been people that have complained, and I'm not saying they don't have a point, but there hasn't been one person say "I didn't buy a Strider because it comes in a baggie".

I won't buy a Strider due to other reasons already discussed, but if I did waffle on my principles and buy one I'd be put off by the baggie too. That being said, I see no reason for him to change because it's not stopping people from giving him their money.

Put a Strider SnG or SMF in your hand and you'll forget about the baggie...

 

[Topcatpt]

If they sell, then why change? From what I understand they sell quite well, thus I don't see them changing their marketing strategy.

They most likely wont until people expect more from them. So apparantly there is no reason for a change. I guess its a good thing it will keep ziplock happy.

 

[straitr]

Put a Strider SnG or SMF in your hand and you'll forget about the baggie...

I'm quite sure of it, but I don't see me getting over the "other stuff", and we don't need to get into that. Not saying others are wrong for buying, it's my choice. I love everything about his knives, even the BS baggie theory is appealing in a certain way. Being a person drawn to all things utilitarian, I find myself looking at his stuff quite a bit, so maybe one day.

 

[NorthernSouthpaw]

I like RiverRat84's idea.."shipping knives in ancient ivory carved boxes." I enjoy his ideas; he's a realist.
Some folks like fancy boxes. Some folks hate Mick. Some folks will claim that his baggies are fake plastic.
Now...I would like 'em to come with a pivot tool so I don't have to buy one for $50.
But his knives are great TOOLS. I've had a lot of them.
Lowe's doesn't sell me a hammer in a fancy box either.
Kinda hard to read all these pages...I got through by skimming a lot. After a while, ya gotta smile.
People are funny.

Yep. no fancy box for that $20 hammer. Now how do you think Lowes would present that hammer if they stuck a $350 price tag on it? What poeple here are saying is the knives sell well as packaged. What I'm trying to point out is that some people do judge books by their cover and that if Strider were to just put a slight effort into packaging they are likely to attract MORE customers. Companies invest billions every year on product branding. I just don't buy the Strider line that has been spewed here about it being a utilitarian tool, not at those prices. If I want a utilitarian I'd get a Utilitac II. And for 25 bucks I get a knife with a lanyard, wrapped in a bubble wrap baggie and in a box. Whoda thunk it. According to some theories about Strider saving you on packaging costs that must mean a Utilitac would really cost somewhere around $10 if only those idiots at Ontario would just shove it in a freakin' sandwich bag. What fools!

 

[RemyKaze]

Yep. no fancy box for that $20 hammer. Now how do you think Lowes would present that hammer if they stuck a $350 price tag on it? What poeple here are saying is the knives sell well as packaged. What I'm trying to point out is that some people do judge books by their cover and that if Strider were to just put a slight effort into packaging they are likely to attract MORE customers. Companies invest billions every year on product branding. I just don't buy the Strider line that has been spewed here about it being a utilitarian tool, not at those prices. If I want a utilitarian I'd get a Utilitac II. And for 25 bucks I get a knife with a lanyard, wrapped in a bubble wrap baggie and in a box. Whoda thunk it. According to some theories about Strider saving you on packaging costs that must mean a Utilitac would really cost somewhere around $10 if only those idiots at Ontario would just shove it in a freakin' sandwich bag. What fools!

Lol, wow, that really must put it in perspective for anyone that doesn't have blinders on. Great comparison.:thumbup:

 

[RemyKaze]

So using the food analogy:

You go to a nice upscale steak house to eat. Your meal comes out on nice plates with garnishes and beautiful presentation. But the steak is only OK.
You go to some side of the road no-name steak house to eat. Your meal comes out on a paper plate, just steak & sides on a plate. But the steak is the best you ever had.

You are buying the knife, you carry the knife, you use the knife. The container it came in is only of use in getting it from point A to point B and for flippers. If you like the knife, it feels good in your hand, and it does the tasks you assign it, then the package shouldn't matter. Last I looked this is BladeForums, not BladeAndPackageForums.

As for the reputation of the maker, that is up to the individual buying the knife to decide on.

Steaks don't usually cost $500. When you're talking half a grand for a tool/toy(whatever your intention), then it just seems really quite cheap to skimp on packaging. I'm sure many people are arguing against the cheapskate presentation because it is half-*ssed versus a real need or want to have a nice lil box and cloth. I don't think it is about entitlement, but about showing a little customer appreciation. None of those companies have to put their knives in a box; the company name is on the knife. They do it to show a modicum of respect and appreciation that you choose to purchase their knife.

Dunno why you guys are even defending the company. They don't care about you. Lol, they put your knives in baggies for Christ's sake.

 

[stabman]

Baggies...boxes...blargh!

You know what? I've started throwing boxes away, because I already have a safe full of boxes.
A takedown tool would have nice though; I could have actually used that.

 

[Halfneck]

Steaks don't usually cost $500. When you're talking half a grand for a tool/toy(whatever your intention), then it just seems really quite cheap to skimp on packaging. I'm sure many people are arguing against the cheapskate presentation because it is half-*ssed versus a real need or want to have a nice lil box and cloth. I don't think it is about entitlement, but about showing a little customer appreciation. None of those companies have to put their knives in a box; the company name is on the knife. They do it to show a modicum of respect and appreciation that you choose to purchase their knife.

Dunno why you guys are even defending the company. They don't care about you. Lol, they put your knives in baggies for Christ's sake.

Not defending Strider, I'm pointing out how inane 8 pages dealing with knife packaging is.

It's typical of the General forum lately. This time it's dogpile Strider, next it will be Cold Steel, then maybe it will move onto Busse or Kershaw. Someone posts something on one of these companies and all the detractors crawl out of the woodwork. Doesn't matter if their post has anything to do with the answer, they're on a crusade. Then the people that have to defend their favorites knife chime in. Numerous pages later and the thread is no longer dealing with the original intent of the question.

Knew better than to post, and I'll end my time on this thread here.

 

[GronK]

With the pricing model most high priced near custom companies use I suspect a simple cardboard box would bring the price up about $200.

 

[RemyKaze]

Not defending Strider, I'm pointing out how inane 8 pages dealing with knife packaging is.

It's typical of the General forum lately. This time it's dogpile Strider, next it will be Cold Steel, then maybe it will move onto Busse or Kershaw. Someone posts something on one of these companies and all the detractors crawl out of the woodwork. Doesn't matter if their post has anything to do with the answer, they're on a crusade. Then the people that have to defend their favorites knife chime in. Numerous pages later and the thread is no longer dealing with the original intent of the question.

Knew better than to post, and I'll end my time on this thread here.

It isn't a black and white, yes or no discussion. There are many viewpoints that do not fall into Category A or Category B. Personally, I don't feel that it has anything to do with "Strider" in particular. I'm expressing my opinion of getting what you pay for, from any company, and what expectations should be regarding a large price tag. I could care less about tools and cloths, and I throw away boxes nine times out of ten.

I get where you're coming from, and these threads are usually simple "agree to disagree" types. There is no need to patronize the people in General specifically.

 

[NorthernSouthpaw]

Not defending Strider, I'm pointing out how inane 8 pages dealing with knife packaging is.

It's typical of the General forum lately. This time it's dogpile Strider, next it will be Cold Steel, then maybe it will move onto Busse or Kershaw. Someone posts something on one of these companies and all the detractors crawl out of the woodwork. Doesn't matter if their post has anything to do with the answer, they're on a crusade. Then the people that have to defend their favorites knife chime in. Numerous pages later and the thread is no longer dealing with the original intent of the question.

Knew better than to post, and I'll end my time on this thread here.

C'mon brother. You're seriously talking about a pointless thread on a forum dedicated to knives? Over 90% of the population would argue that ANY topic brought up on this forum is just pointless drivel. We are all here because we have a shared interest no, passion for something. I am actually enjoying this thread. people don't seem to be "dogpiling" as much as they are expressing an opinion and replying to others. All this is being done with respect (mostly) towards the other posters. Sometimes the topic is irrelevant. Sometimes the fun is in the arguing itself. So long as it doesn't get personal and no vitriol is felt. I take offense to your pigeon holing me into either the category of "hater" or "fanboy".
You have your opinion and you stated it. I responded to it with a valid argument and you spout off about crusades, call everyone inane, and then you take you ball and go home.
If you felt that way about this thread than why did you bother reading it in the first place? Also by making a comment like this really looks a lot like you are just trolling.

But since you decided to play elsewhere you are not likely to read this anyway, Maybe we can have a nice discussion that you find more worthy in another thread.

 

[jstrykr74]

Baggies...boxes...blargh!

You know what? I've started throwing boxes away, because I already have a safe full of boxes.
A takedown tool would have nice though; I could have actually used that.

I've been doing the same for quite some time. I check the knife over when I get it and if it's in acceptable condition, the box goes in the trash. The less packaging the better. Less I have to throw out, that goes for anything. Heck I just that to replace my iPod (the last one was so old, it actually had buttons on it much to the amazement of my niece and nephew...) and needed a drink by the time I sorted through all the pieces of the box it came in. If I wanted a pretty piece of cardboard to play with, I'd buy a jigsaw puzzle.
As for the food analogy, I've had a lot of truly great food in many different places in this world. Just about all of it came wrapped in butcher's paper or in a cheap plastic bowl not on fine china. Fine dining isn't so much about the food, it's about the experience or about marking an occasion.