rpnp - thank you for your reply. Interesting. Your comment about Sal though begs the question, why the liner lock & frame lock models then? If he feels his lock back is the way to go, why stray from it? Consumer demand I would guess. And I'm sure his liner & frame locks are "strong enough" so to speak. Just as CRK's are too, as are the others I would think. If you stay with well established makers and quality custom makers. Otherwise a bad rep spreads like crazy now days.