Strider V.S Hinderer!!! Your opinions and experiences

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I am saving some money to buy either a Hinderer XM-18 or one of the Striders (haven't decided between the sng or smf) I love how all of the knives look but I can't decide which one to get first! I already have a Sebenza 25 and I am very pleased with it so far. I have heard almost no negative comments about the Hinderers. Strider on the other hand I have heard some mixed reviews, mostly regarding lockup and fit and finish inconsistency. What are your experiences like with both of these companies regarding fit and finish of product, durability, ergonomics,customer service etc.? Thanks!
 
My experience is with strider only, a PT. The fit and finish on mine was fine, but the lock was difficult to disengage. I got rid of it because it was on the small side, with had nothing to do with the knife. The one thing that I did not like for sure was the location of the clip, which left a lot of the knife hanging out of my pocket. I did like the shape of the blade and the choil for detail cuts.
I am still wanting to try out a Hinderer, but refuse to pay the secondary market pricing.
 
I have owned both and prefer Hinderer. Never had any issues with Hinderers as I did with strider. Hinderers are top notch knives, top notch customer service, with tight tolerances. The strider takes up more pocket room that's for sure. But what you pay for a knife and the value you get is up to you. The XM-18 3.5" is the perfect size. Hinderer hands down

Good luck!
 
I've got 4 Hinderers and 8 Striders. Both are great knives. Each has an intended use and depending on your needs, that decision is yours. I've yet to have any issues with any of the Striders that others have had. If you use either knife stupidly, you'll have issues with the knife of choice. Have not had a need to send either in for service, can't say about that. It will probably be more economically affordable to pick up a Strider first, the secondary market for Hinderer is steep. Both can be customized and look great.
 
Keep your Sebenza 25. It's the best of the three... IMO... and I've had several of each brand.

Striders are excellent, although occasionally they are a bit finicky with lockup. Their Customer Service is outstanding, although sometimes they don't like to answer your email questions right away. This is the Supreme Beast for tactical service.
Hinderers are nice, but much too heavy-duty for casual carry purposes. The 3.5" flipper has a very loose detent...in order that you can flip out that heavy spanto blade. The 3" Hinderer is about the same grip length as the small Sebenza...too SHORT for my large hand. This brand is a good knife, and worth the money that they cost...if you're in Emergency Services...but not worth the horrible markup that most of us have to pay.
CRK's just go on and on. They can be easily cleaned by you, if necessary, but do not normally need it other than perhaps once every five years. Sebenzas, Zaans...they're all great, and I've NEVER had any problem with any of these models.
Everybody has their own opinion. of course.

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Hinderer's are awesome, if I were to get another it would be the slicer grind instead of the spanto.

Strider is a crap shoot, you could get a good one or you might get a bad one. If you get one with sticky lock, don't expect strider to reply to emails or fix it, it's not a warranty issue , my experience has shown they will not do a thing. So just keep that in mind.
 
I have all 3. My vote goes to xm18 if u really wanna get something different from the seb25 to try. IMO, the xm18 fit and finish is better than my SMF.
 
Strider's lock stick is easy to fix, a few coatings of pencil lead had mine freed up fast, in fact much faster than my Galyean large Lahar which took 100's apply, open/close cycles to get the same results. I've heard others say their sticky Strider locks were just as simple to free up.
 
Strider's lock stick is easy to fix, a few coatings of pencil lead had mine freed up fast, in fact much faster than my Galyean large Lahar which took 100's apply, open/close cycles to get the same results. I've heard others say their sticky Strider locks were just as simple to free up.

A $400 knife, putting marker or pencil on the lock tang is unacceptable. It's like starting a new car with a screwdriver cause the maker won't fix the ignition problem.:thumbdn:
 
A $400 knife, putting marker or pencil on the lock tang is unacceptable. It's like starting a new car with a screwdriver cause the maker won't fix the ignition problem.:thumbdn:

The Galyean cost nearly 500 and it was much worse than the Strider. I wish it had only taken 4 or 5 cycles instead of hours worth. Both are perfect now, so I can't complain.
 
Neither will be made as well as your Sebenza, but the XM-18's I've seen are built very well, and better than a Strider.
 
Unless Mick has lost his mind and started producing junk I don't understand some of the posts. I needed a hands down no bullshit tactical knife that I could depend on 100%. This was my duty knife. I, at the time, was a street cop, working in a nasty high drug traffic area, the hood. I carried two guns, both Glocks, and my Strider. This knife never let me down. I punched it through a car door once, no bs. Strider is tactical. So if you want that type of knife, go for it. You break it Mick will replace it, the end. Mine was an SNG. Tactical. But really man, and I love Mick Strider knives, is that what you really need! Just some food for thought. Sorry to be so damn wordy.....
 
This is the knife forum with the most hate for Strider on the internet. Microtech is next because of ZT, but Strider has to be number one, because of lies about his military service. Don't expect to see any thread here about Striders without loads of negative.
 
This is the knife forum with the most hate for Strider on the internet. Microtech is next because of ZT, but Strider has to be number one, because of lies about his military service. Don't expect to see any thread here about Striders without loads of negative.
Hey Jill, it floored me when you said lies about his military service. I met him once at an event. I found him to be genuine in his love for the craft. I'm a retired LEO and usually have a good sense of people. Matter of fact, that's why I bought the knife. I don't want to rehash bad mojo, but what lies?
 
Hey Jill, it floored me when you said lies about his military service. I met him once at an event. I found him to be genuine in his love for the craft. I'm a retired LEO and usually have a good sense of people. Matter of fact, that's why I bought the knife. I don't want to rehash bad mojo, but what lies?

I am sure someone will link the thread for you. I just have one Strider I finally bought because it's made in the USA and I like to try different USA made brands. Plus I heard they have better fit and finish, along with much improved lock up. It's a fine knife IMO, but you asked and don't expect Striders to be looked at in good favor by many here.
 
I recommend the Hinderer over Strider if you can get it direct from Rick. The XM-18 is not worth the inflated prices in the secondary market when could get you a fine custom or nearly two CRKs for the money.

When I first started hunting for a Strider, I ran into lots of issues with lockup. I wanted one of each of the PT, SNG, and SMF. My PT had up and down play and some stickiness but lockup was overall secure so it was not too big of a concern to me. I only sold it as I prefer other folders in that size range. I went through three SNGs with horrible lock slip problems until I found one that was solid. Note that the three that failed to lock up properly all had the new lock geometry. I sold the good SNG anyway as I prefer its bigger brother. My first SMF had up and down play which generally worked itself out after breaking the knife in. Sold that one for my second SMF and the only Strider I still own. It has an aluminum scale instead of G10 and an M4 blade - love that knife.

I only kept buying Striders as I liked the ergos and figured I should have at least one in my collection. But all in all, it still amazes me the kind of following they have considering their QC problems. For $300+ "hard use" knives the lockup issues are laughable. The die-hard Strider fans are very vocal and can tout the Strider warranty as much as they want - there are definitely better buys out there for the money. I am patient and knew the negatives going in which is why I kept looking despite one bad example after another, but I only own one now for this same reason.

As for Hinderer, the XM-18s are nice knives assuming you pay the direct price. I have an XM-24 with rock solid lockup and good overall F&F. If you are looking for a flipper, be prepared for a bad detent and thus weak flipping action. My XM-24 suffers from this as did the many XMs I have handled. I chuckle every time someone mentions that Hinderer does this by design but take it or leave it. I purchased my XM-18 as a "pimped" knife with modified detent which now flips properly. Again the lockup is dead on. I have never dealt with their customer service but it generally gets positive marks from the community.

Neither the Strider nor Hinderer is going to really outshine your CRK. Strider ergonomics are fantastic if they fit your hand but be prepared for disappointment with fit and finish or lockup compared to your Sebenza. Best bet is to purchase secondhand when the seller can confirm everything is good to go. The Hinderer is superior IMO. I like the options to customize your XM with the various scales, parts, etc. Keep the detent issue in mind though. If you cannot get it direct from Rick, it would be wise to look in the midtech or custom knife world at that price range.

As you mentioned, I love the looks of the knives from all three makers. Good examples from each are going to be super tough and should perform equally well for the average user. From the sound of it, you will most likely end up owning knives from all three companies anyway. Happy hunting!
 
This is the knife forum with the most hate for Strider on the internet. Microtech is next because of ZT, but Strider has to be number one, because of lies about his military service. Don't expect to see any thread here about Striders without loads of negative.

Is there a reason you continue to bring this out? You seem to do it during discussions of Strider when it has not even been mentioned in the thread prior to your posting.
 
Is there a reason you continue to bring this out? You seem to do it during discussions of Strider when it has not even been mentioned in the thread prior to your posting.

What's the problem? It's well documented on this forum, pretty much fact Strider has loads of people that hate the brand and the man behind it. Murfdog asked and I told him my opinion you have a different one state it.
 
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