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Strop Cleaning

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I've read about cleaning strops by using WD-40 etc... I have a strop that has a few tiny but aggravating dings in it. It needs to be sanded smooth. I have done this in the past.

Problem, it's loaded up with Hand American diamond spray and will resist sand paper. This stuff is supposed to be water based. I thought about using a damp rag.

Anyone done this before and care to share their eperience? :)
 
I'm not a fan of using WD-40. Personally, I don't care for the residual petroleum based oil left by the stuff on the leather, although it is a good cleaner due to its carrier of Stoddard Solution. I like to use some lighter fluid or Coleman fuel. It will cut through just about anything, not leave any residue, and not stay wet enough to penetrate the leather too deeply. After it's clean and sanded, treat the leather with some sort of non-greasy conditioner such as shoe cream.

Stitchawl
 
Thanks. I always keep a big can of lighter fluid on hand. Bill DeShivs posted about using it to clean the actions of gunky pivots and re-lubing. I've done it a 100 times over the yrs. I'll ponder it and maybe have a go at it. I've sande these strops before. They stay hard - unless the lighter fluid changes their texture.

Why would I want to put a leather conditioner on them?? :confused:
 
Thanks. I always keep a big can of lighter fluid on hand. Bill DeShivs posted about using it to clean the actions of gunky pivots and re-lubing. I've done it a 100 times over the yrs. I'll ponder it and maybe have a go at it.

I use lighter fluid as a general cleaning agent. It removes adhesive residue quickly and easily, washes away hardened oil and grease, removes wax buildup, etc. I've even used it on paper products without any difficulty. Besides its great solvent qualities, its strength is that is leaves absolutely no residue. I find its only drawback to be its flammability.

I've sande these strops before. They stay hard - unless the lighter fluid changes their texture.

I've used lighter fluid on leather many, many times with no change to the leather texture. However... I've never used it on sanded leather. Why not take a small piece of scrap leather, same type as your strop, sand it, and give it a squirt of lighter fluid? I don't imagine you'll see any change, but this way you'll be sure. Let me know the re.... wait a sec.... I probably have a lot more scraps of leather right at hand, and lighter fluid...

OK... I just took a piece of veg tanned cowhide, then sanded half of it with some 600 grit wet/dry... Two minutes later... no change to the texture and the leather looks almost completely dry. I'd say that in another 2-3 minutes it will be the same color as before I squirted it, and there is no textural difference at all.

Why would I want to put a leather conditioner on them?? :confused:

Because it's leather. It has natural oils in it. Not enough so you can feel them, but enough to keep the cells lubricated so they don't begin to crack when something touches them. Using any solvent on the leather will break down a lot of these natural oils, allowing the leather to dry out. You don't want to use a petroleum-based oil for this. A natural oil (neatsfoot oil, genuine mink oil [not the silicon and wax stuff] even lard would work!) is great, but even a small can of shoe cream will do the trick.

In human skin, you don't notice the lack of oils until your hands begin to chap, then you rub in some lotion. Rubbing a knife back and forth over the leather does actually put pressure on the cell structure. Not as much as folding the leather would, but enough so that over time the leather will begin to break down. If your strop is a hanging strop it will get a lot more physical flexing than a bench strop and require some conditioner every few years to keep it young and beautiful. A bench strop needs it about every 5 years depending upon the heat, humidity, etc. of its environment. Of course a strop 'can' last 20-30 years without any conditioner, but it will not be in as good condition as one that has been properly cared for. Any good quality razor strop is shipped with a little tube of leather conditioner for this reason. My grandfather's old strop looks almost brand new (about a peanut-sized gob of conditioner rubbed in every year) and the leather is as flexible as the new horsehide I got a few months ago.

BTW... the leather is completely back to its natural color now, and still no textural differences.

Stitchawl
 
Thanks for al the intell Stitchawl - I appreciate it. :thumbup:
 
Seems to me one can make a new strop in half the time it takes to clean one up, no??
 
Seems to me one can make a new strop in half the time it takes to clean one up, no??

If it's just 'plain ol' leather, yes, you can. If it's a belt that you've been using, yes, you can. But if it's a piece of leather that you've spend an hour or two boning before turning it into a strop, well, that's a lot of work wasted. Of course, if you've covered that boned leather with compound it was wasted work too. But how about if it's a nice hanging strop that you've cut to size, stitched on a nice hand grip on one end and a reinforced swivel hanger on the other? Would you throw that away instead of taking two minutes to clean it? Cuz that's all it takes to clean it. Two minutes.


Stitchawl
 
I use what I learned from Handamerican (I think it was them)... waterless hand cleaner (the kind with no pumice) does a great job of cleaning and reconditioning the leather.

cbw
 
I use what I learned from Handamerican (I think it was them)... waterless hand cleaner (the kind with no pumice) does a great job of cleaning and reconditioning the leather.

cbw

That should work - the compound on the strops is Hand American diamond spray - a slurry in a water base. Thanks, I can always email Keith - he'll probably tell me to ditch the strops again though. He likes balsa, film, felt pads and other stuff to use the compunds on and leave the leather to be used bare. Maybe he'll see this thread and post?

I'm set for now though as mentioned I sanded them good last night. :thumbup:
 
That should work - the compound on the strops is Hand American diamond spray - a slurry in a water base. Thanks, I can always email Keith - he'll probably tell me to ditch the strops again though. He likes balsa, film, felt pads and other stuff to use the compunds on and leave the leather to be used bare. Maybe he'll see this thread and post?

I'm set for now though as mentioned I sanded them good last night. :thumbup:

Keith will tell you to get one of his horsehide strops and use it bare. And he's right! :thumbup: It's some of the highest quality horsehide available. It's cut from the butt section of a 'Horween' Leather hide. It just doesn't get much better than that!
http://horween.com/index.php/leathers/

Once you use horsehide you'll be a convert. There is nothing like it for the final stropping.


Stitchawl
 
The best/quickest way I've found to clean a hard strop and remove dings is with a small orbital sander, 220 grit. The strop looks and performs like new after this.
 
He already has told me that stitchawl :D

The best/quickest way I've found to clean a hard strop and remove dings is with a small orbital sander, 220 grit. The strop looks and performs like new after this.

I never took a shop class in school - I don't know what that is but I can look it up. I have something that is called a "palm sander" I think.
 
He already has told me that stitchawl :D

I won't stand on a street corner soapbox and rave about religion. I won't rant about politics. Neither impress me enough to expend such energies.

The difference between horsehide and cowhide does... :thumbup:
It really IS that good.

I never took a shop class in school - I don't know what that is but I can look it up. I have something that is called a "palm sander" I think.

This is used for sanding your palm when you've gotten too many calluses from working. Women often use foot sanders to smooth the skin on their heels and soles, right? Guys need something after they've been shoveling. I have a fingertip sander for guitar playing for when I've been making too many slides on wound strings and the skin is beginning to peel. Very helpful. :rolleyes:

Your palm sander will work for a strop too. I'd keep the grit higher than 400 myself.

Stitchawl
 
Don't you guys worry about grit embedding in the leather when you sand it?
 
Thanks! I'll use it and I have some fresh 400 to put on it. Honestly it's my wife's - I'll have her load it up and I can sand with it after she gets the paper to stick on it.

What can I say? Prep school education - left me with no life skills about what different tools are called, carpenters, plumbers, painters, mechanics - everybody gets over on me cuz I don't know what they're talking about. I just say "hmm, yeah hmm, better get that taken care of." :confused: :D

Worst part was - they didn't have GIRLS at school either which really sucked!
 
Don't you guys worry about grit embedding in the leather when you sand it?

No I never did - but I thought about it. The guy that makes them said to do it and I've done it w/o any problems twice. I wipe it off good and then put my compound on it??? :confused:
 
What can I say? Prep school education - left me with no life skills about what different tools are called, carpenters, plumbers, painters, mechanics - everybody gets over on me cuz I don't know what they're talking about.

True, but you guys knew the rules of Soccer looooong before us public school kids did. There were only two guys in my high school who actually knew how to play, and they were both recent European arrivals.

And they both had really cool switchblades! Those were the days long before metal detectors at the school front door and guards in the halls.


Stitchawl
 
Don't you guys worry about grit embedding in the leather when you sand it?

Frankly, I never sanded any 'strop' myself. This recent experiment with sanding and lighter fluid was the first time I sanded one. Normally I wouldn't do it. I've never needed to. I guess I've been lucky in my strop use. I do sand the edges of sheaths and other leather projects before finishing them with gum tragacanth, but never noticed any residue from the sandpaper afterwords.

I have cleaned strops, but that was only because I wanted to change compounds, not general cleaning. I never saw any need to clean a strop just because it got blackened. If I was using compound I just added a bit more. After the first few experiments with strops and compound I discovered how little compound was actually needed, so really never got into gloping the stuff on thickly. Over the years one or two strops have gotten a bit 'thick' but I never noticed any decrease in their ability to finish an edge. These days I do more stropping with bare leather as I want that sort of final edge.

Stitchawl
 
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