Stuck knife.

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In the Anmy,we were taught to unstick a bayonet by pulling the trigger or kicking the SOB off of it.
I stuck a Randall # 1 in an NVA.I had limited time,but I wanted my knife.I tried the usual,no budge.
You know more about this than I do.I always thought that the point fish hooked in bone.
It is no credit to lose a weapon
To Bo Randall`s credit.when the new knife came
,it said N/C.

You can`t embarrasse my now,so I would like to know of stuck blades.
After due note,I will take less care of my English in future.
 
ghostsix banged out:<BLOCKQUOTE>After due note,I will take less care of my English in future.</BLOCKQUOTE><EM>*laugh*</EM>

Yep, wouldn't want to set a standard that would intimidate other, less literate posters.
 
That does seem to be the case.How`s this for a typo?ugtijjigt
If I can be more lazy,why not?
If we do decend to the lowest common denominator,some of our best will leave.
I don`t like to spell and puntuate any more than anyone else.That is what secretaries are for.

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Ghost,
What stays in my mind about your story is that the Randal got stuck, I am not sure what model this is, was it a large knife or a small one? I am suprised a Randal got stuck.


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A #1 `60 vintage.
Gee,I said that.It is a 7" bowie style with a straight 1 /3 false edge for ease of sharpening.Not a clip.The point has the weakness inherent in the design.
I never expected to describe a KA-BAR either.Now,I`m not so sure.

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Col.: allow an approach from a purely theoretical perspective.

Although unsure of the particulars of your previous situation, assuming that it was stuck in some body cavity and not hung up on someone's LBE, rifle, etc.

One way I have heard was the "wiggle." Assume you have an insertion, it gets caught, "wiggle" the blade from side to side and pull out. Not sure if that is what you tried. Again, purely theoretical.

Secondly, "Stab/slash". One traditional way in FMA systems I have seen is a stab, and then cutting your way out. Essentially, assume the insertion, then twist the blade and and cut your way out. Supposedly, this method counteracts the "tightening" of the body's muscles when it grips the foreign object that has been inserted into it.

Again, all theoretical, maybe none of them work in real time.

Janich advocates a simplified variation of this called a "comma cut" (I believe). Essentially, Insert and carve a "," shaped exit wound.

Regards,

Dave

 
This was 1966,and I was busy.I had run out of ammo.I remember the gook falling on the blade while I was behind a tree.He tripped on the downed tree.I remember trying to yank it out.It was in the thorax.I always assumed that the point fish hooked and stuck in bone.That is what Bo Randall thought also.I don`t know.There was no autopsy performed.
If I had him.I would pour diesel on him ,and light him up wth a WP grenade.
Heck,I grabbed the handle with both hands ,and kicked the dirtbab.Several times.No joy.

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And if you don`t think that I will drop a Willie Peter on you,you live in a dream world.
Watching it happening is an education.The phosphors in your blood dooms you.

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ghostsix, the term "gook", however <EM>you</EM> may have meant it, is a racial epithet. If you didn't mean it to be taken that way, then you should clarify your remarks and avoid its use in future. If you <EM>did</EM> mean it that way, then at least one of us doesn't belong here.

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It's always Dark. Light only hides the Darkness.

 
Another Stalin who thinks he can re-write history,how wonderfull.
You do not even know the etyomology of the word.
You can bet that I mean what I say.
While I`m thinking of it,you self-sanctimonious people are a pain in the neck.

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Actually, according lexicographers, the origin of the word is unknown. ghostsix may in fact actually know the origin (lexicographers don't necessarily know everything about words that others know), but he's exactly engaged in something known as "the etymological fallacy". What a word <EM>meant</EM> doesn't simply establish what it <EM>means</EM>. For example "egregious" comes from a Latin word meaning <EM>outstandingly good</EM>, but by the time that we get to Modern English, it means <EM>outstandingly bad</EM>. (Many of us can think of an immediate application here.)

For those of you who care, here is the relevant entry in <EM>The New Shorter Oxford English Dictionary</EM> (I delete the IPA phonetics):<BLOCKQUOTE><STRONG>gook</STRONG> // <EM>n. & a. slang</EM> (orig. & chiefly <EM>US</EM>). <EM>derog.</EM> & usu. considered <EM>racially offensive</EM>. <FONT SIZE=1>E20.</FONT> [Origin unkn.] <STRONG>A</STRONG> A foreigner, <EM>esp.</EM> a member of an Asian or Pacific people; <EM>spec.</EM> a Filipino; a Korean; a Vietnamese. <FONT SIZE=1>E20.</FONT> <STRONG>B</STRONG> <EM>adj.</EM> Foreign, <EM>esp.</EM> oriental; made in a foreign country. <FONT SIZE=1>M20.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>

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I missed this thread until now; that's what happens when you reply to posts on other threads and on other forums....
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The etymology is irrelevant to the fact it's a pejorative word ("nigger" is just a variant of "negro," meaning "black," from an etymological perspective, after all) but the story I've heard is interesting. Webster's Third says "origin unknown" (I'll check the OED when I get around to it but I doubt it has it; the OED is primarily British). The story I heard, though, is the Korean word for American sounds like "mergook." Every time American soldiers would go into a Korean village everybody would say "Mergook! Mergook!" Hearing that, and not knowing what it meant, the soldiers started calling the Koreans "gooks" and later started applying the term to all asians. It might not have been meant as particularly pejorative at the time it was originated, but acquired that connotation later.

I heard that story from a woman who spent several years in Korea and spoke some Korean, but I can't attest to its accuracy; there are a lot of "folk etymology" stories around, many of them sounding very plausible but definitely known to be false.

I think I've said all I have to say about knives getting stuck in people. :{)

-Cougar Allen :{)
 
Cougar &#150;

The difficulty for that story is that the term arises <EM>before</EM> the Korean, er, Police Action.

BTW, my Korean friends tell me that, over there, the everyday term for <EM>Caucasian</EM> translates as "person with big nose".
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It's always Dark. Light only hides the Darkness.

 
BTW, Cougar, <EM>The New Shorter Oxford English Dictionary</EM> basically
<EM>is</EM> the <EM>OED</EM>, except that it omits words that fell from use by <FONT SIZE=1>AD</FONT> 1700, and doesn't provide the quotations. Unless you have the latest supplements, and those supplements have an entry for "gook", we're outta luck.
 
G6,
I can't remember right off, but I think the Randall 1 has a choil cut out for placement of the finger infront of the guard. This might have hooked behind a rib bone and stuck the blade. I know my #18 has this cut out, but a Ka-Bar has no cut out.

I've been told the Korean word for "man" is hang-guk. This along with mergook is no more offensive than calling all GI's - Hey Joe, or Yankee. -Brian

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