Mixed Stuff_things

[ohno505]

I work in a government building that has a no cell phone policy. I thought a deal was made with Robert on a knife he had for sale. I explained to Robert the transfer from bank to PayPal wasn't immediate, and through our conversation he agreed. .
I leave work, go to pay the email address we communicated through to see he made another deal with a member on the same knife. I suppose he has a right to sell to whom he wants.. A heads up would have been nice. I'm under the impression we had a deal the entire day. He said he didn't hear from me for 8 hours, my work shift obviously, yet made zero attempt to reach out, or notify me that he made another deal with someone else. It's a simple respect, and a shock that someone who has a itrader score as high as he does conducts himself in this manner.
There was no pay guidelines within the ad, essentially I could have made claim, not communicate, and waited for transfer to clear. I'm sure there are many who have had a great transaction with Robert. I should be less honest on the woes of US Bank to PayPal transfers in the future.
I've done enough transactions here at this point I can bitch a little.. the ignore button is a great tool, but in this case an abused tool. Rather admit your wrong, or take accountability of breaking your word, just ignore the person..
Thank you. Lesson here is don't take conversations that should be conducted through the forum to other private communication resources.

 

[stuff_things]

I'm a bit surprised you actually went through with this post. I'm embarrassed by the fact that my forum name is even topic within the GB&U.

You said it yourself: the seller has every right to sell to whomever they choose to, without expressed reason. To that I wonder: what is the point of this thread?

You're right, I didn't hear back from you all day. The last message I sent to you, verbatim was "Well if I have your word for it, I will wait for you to clear funds". Expressed consent on both parties was never reached because you never messaged me back. I waited 7 hours to move to the next in line, which I did.

Fast forward to 2pm GMT. You post in my thread something you could have said privately. A blatant attempt at a low key smearing? Who knows. Then you call me. This is important because I provided you with my personal phone number to be generous, make dealing easier, and basically efficiency where the PM system doesn't quite fulfil.

You left a voicemail on my phone-- I was at work, can t answer calls-- telling me I " sold it out from under you (not true as there was no verbal agreement from both parties), then said I blocked you from something ( I haven't blocked you from anything, YET), then you called me a chicken sh**, f****ing coward and if you ever cross paths with me you're going to kick my *ss".

Then it continues. You send me a PM, verbatim: "What the f**k? I filed with PayPal you f****ng thief. What a coward piece of sh*t. Block me after stealing my money? You are trash man."

I don't have time and barely the energy to deal with unstable members of society, especially on the internet. My advice, take the loss and move on. Also, don't threaten somebody you don't know. Especially since I know your name and phone number, city you live in and sort of your place of employment; law enforcement would have no troubles pursuing you.

I forgot to add, I never received any funds from you so I'm not sure why you would file a dispute with PayPal. Again, NO CURRENCY EVER SWITCHED HANDS.

 

[Gastonknife]

Wow, something tells me this could be one of those threads that does not work out the way the OP intended.

Helps to identify the drama queens.

 

[stuff_things]

Wow, something tells me this could be one of those threads that does not work out the way the OP intended.

I was willing to work out by means that work within the real world, ie some communication between both parties, but smearing my name was the alternative route apparently.

 

[Lapedog]

Someone should turn this thread into a movie already. I smell an oscar for sure!

 

[Ajack60]

I work in a government building that has a no cell phone policy. I thought a deal was made with Robert on a knife he had for sale. I explained to Robert the transfer from bank to PayPal wasn't immediate, and through our conversation he agreed. .
I leave work, go to pay the email address we communicated through to see he made another deal with a member on the same knife. I suppose he has a right to sell to whom he wants.. A heads up would have been nice. I'm under the impression we had a deal the entire day. He said he didn't hear from me for 8 hours, my work shift obviously, yet made zero attempt to reach out, or notify me that he made another deal with someone else. It's a simple respect, and a shock that someone who has a itrader score as high as he does conducts himself in this manner.
There was no pay guidelines within the ad, essentially I could have made claim, not communicate, and waited for transfer to clear. I'm sure there are many who have had a great transaction with Robert. I should be less honest on the woes of US Bank to PayPal transfers in the future.
I've done enough transactions here at this point I can bitch a little.. the ignore button is a great tool, but in this case an abused tool. Rather admit your wrong, or take accountability of breaking your word, just ignore the person..
Thank you. Lesson here is don't take conversations that should be conducted through the forum to other private communication resources.

No, you don't have merit to bitch regardless of how many transactions you've got.
The real lesson here is that if you can't pay immediately for something you want, you're not entitled to anything.

 

[-Corey-]

...I forgot to add, I never received any funds from you so I'm not sure why you would file a dispute with PayPal. Again, NO CURRENCY EVER SWITCHED HANDS.

I don't see how a paypal dispute would even be possible since he seems to have realized you already made another deal before he sent any money.

I work in a government building that has a no cell phone policy. I thought a deal was made with Robert on a knife he had for sale. I explained to Robert the transfer from bank to PayPal wasn't immediate, and through our conversation he agreed. I leave work, go to pay the email address we communicated through to see he made another deal with a member on the same knife. I suppose he has a right to sell to whom he wants.. A heads up would have been nice. I'm under the impression we had a deal the entire day. He said he didn't hear from me for 8 hours, my work shift obviously, yet made zero attempt to reach out, or notify me that he made another deal with someone else. It's a simple respect, and a shock that someone who has a itrader score as high as he does conducts himself in this manner.
There was no pay guidelines within the ad, essentially I could have made claim, not communicate, and waited for transfer to clear. I'm sure there are many who have had a great transaction with Robert. I should be less honest on the woes of US Bank to PayPal transfers in the future.
I've done enough transactions here at this point I can bitch a little.. the ignore button is a great tool, but in this case an abused tool. Rather admit your wrong, or take accountability of breaking your word, just ignore the person..
Thank you. Lesson here is don't take conversations that should be conducted through the forum to other private communication resources.

It sucks to miss out on something, especially if you think the guy gave you his word that it was yours, but it seems like he wasn't sure yet if you were fully committed to buying it. Nothing to get too bent out of shape about, just learn from it and be crystal clear with communication in the future and maybe you can avoid situations like that.

 

[lieferung]

I don't understand these types of complaints. This place is not an online store where they have lots of stock and you can pay whenever. Payment should always be prompt, and if it's not then you shouldn't reasonably expect to get the deal. This is just a venting post.

Also @OP, PayPal has an option to pay directly from your bank account. I believe it is just another payment method and affords the same protections as linking your credit card. This would eliminate a hindrance in paying if you first have to wait to transfer from bank to PayPal.

 

[10after10]

I have successfully transacted multiple deals with stuff_things. Never, ever, any issue or miscommunication. I find him to be a completely upstanding member of Blade Forums.

 

[A-MAC]

stuff_things is a good dude. I've never had a problem with him.

OP you might want to rethink your expectations a little. You have a few transactions under your belt also, you should know how the community works. While prompt payment or full commitment of such in the future at a predetermined time wasn't in the ad it is definitely common courtesy and common among sellers here. Without full commitment from you, which it doesn't sound like he had, I would have sold it also.

Money talks and B.S. walks.

 

[-Corey-]

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Also @OP, PayPal has an option to pay directly from your bank account. I believe it is just another payment method and affords the same protections as linking your credit card. This would eliminate a hindrance in paying if you first have to wait to transfer from bank to PayPal.

That's exactly what I was thinking. If you transfer via debit card, it's not an instant transfer. If you transfer straight from a bank account, it will be an instant transfer.

Also, just because a seller hasn't specifically laid out every single term and condition of their sale, doesn't mean a buyer has free rein after saying "I'll take it". Until a mutual agreement is made, the seller is free to do whatever they want with their property.

 

[RevDevil]

This is precisely why communication is so important, not this kind of communication as it serves no real purpose. Talking to one another is how we understand one another. If you want an item, then you need to commit and be ready to pay ASAP.

I know not everyone has a lenient job where you have the privilege to use a cell phone or email, but communicating that and offering up a reliable time frame is a good idea, hell talk over the phone instead of emailing is good too. It's too bad that you guy could not reach an amicable and complete transaction, instead it was reduced to insults and threats.

I do believe that a seller can sell to whomever they want, but they also have the obligation to communicate their decision to the other party. It seems that this is becoming a problem of abuse (failing to communicate all around). That is not what good deals and successful transactions are made of.

 

[stuff_things]

This is precisely why communication is so important, not this kind of communication as it serves no real purpose. Talking to one another is how we understand one another. If you want an item, then you need to commit and be ready to pay ASAP.

I know not everyone has a lenient job where you have the privilege to use a cell phone or email, but communicating that and offering up a reliable time frame is a good idea, hell talk over the phone instead of emailing is good too. It's too bad that you guy could not reach an amicable and complete transaction, instead it was reduced to insults and threats.

I do believe that a seller can sell to whomever they want, but they also have the obligation to communicate their decision to the other party. It seems that this is becoming a problem of abuse (failing to communicate all around). That is not what good deals and successful transactions are made of.

I admit I reacted emotionally and posted a response to his thread out of slight...rage.

I don't consider anyone an enemy, most definitely not within this community and hobby.

Despite the imperfect communication from both of us, I should have let Ohno505 know that I was taking the lack of response as his no longer being interested and I was moving forward with a deal with another member. Would this have prevented the boiling over displayed here? ---that's anyone's guess.

If his wording and language which I posted above is against the rules or uncalled for on my part, I will gladly edit my initial post. However, I feel the way he reacted after the fact--which he has done in the past-- crossed the unspoken line and I felt the need to defend myself and my claim in the stake.

 

[ohno505]

I admit I reacted emotionally and posted a response to his thread out of slight...rage.

I don't consider anyone an enemy, most definitely not within this community and hobby.

Despite the imperfect communication from both of us, I should have let Ohno505 know that I was taking the lack of response as his no longer being interested and I was moving forward with a deal with another member. Would this have prevented the boiling over displayed here? ---that's anyone's guess.

If his wording and language which I posted above is against the rules or uncalled for on my part, I will gladly edit my initial post. However, I feel the way he reacted after the fact--which he has done in the past-- crossed the unspoken line and I felt the need to defend myself and my claim in the stake.

Sir, you either have the wrong person, have fabricated quite a tale, or flat out delusional. Yes, you left a number in a message along with an email address in response to my message. I never contacted your number, I would never respond to a personal phone number through a public forum. In fact, I own a cell phone that has no carrier, no phone number attached to it, and used much like a iPod. I haven't had a cell phone number, or carrier in quite some time. It still isn't allowed inside the building I work in. There are many members willing to give and take such personal information, I am not. I don't even take packages in my name, and very little mail due to the nature of my career. So please, refrain from fabricating such petty stories to win over the population. You broke your word, own it, move on. I'm not that upset. If you're embarrassed you broke your word, that's something you can overcome.

You have the right to sell to whom you choose, I know it, I said it, thank you for repeating my words to your favor. The reason I posted is pretty straight forward, and doesn't need much explaining or made for tv stories of drama and hardship overcome by a hero. You're not a victim.
We made a deal, I was open and thorough on my side of the terms to which you agreed. You simply could have said no. I found out that deal was broken by reading the comments on your post. You didn't have the courtesy of messaging me you were going to a different buyer, or inquire if payment was ready, how much longer, nothing. My first sentence to you was "are you in need of money immediately"?
A simple message via email, which is how we corresponded, or a PM through Blade Forums would have been suffice. You agreed to a deal, and didnt follow through, didnt have the common courtesies most do to let me know you were going with a different buyer, story over. You've been here a long time, done many deals, and maybe it's a right to treat people that way.. who knows, who cares.

I simply expressed my disappointment to which you have fabricated a poorly written response or excuse. Rather than admit the deal was made and you backed out, you fabricate this odd tale, add violence, and some curse words, post a response, and get a pat on the back for something I can't quite identify.

Yes I attempted to make payment to the email address you left along with your number. I thought nothing of it until I was home at a computer and the funds I sent were pending with no destination. Its possible I didn't cut and paste the entire address, or you have a different email address attached to PayPal. I'm sure many members have had a great interactions with you, great transactions with you, I did not. Sure I was disappointed, still am, it's a beautiful knife that I missed on the first round it was up. Much like you, I didn't have the funds in PayPal and needed to transfer from my bank. The difference is the previous owner was very up front. He had the respect and courtesy to let me know he was going with another buyer, which was you. I didn't write feedback in regards to his decision because he was up front, and respectful enough to let me know rather find out through a post comment. That member is legendary. That member has a score that trump's most within this forum. I respect him as much as I did before he decided on a different buyer.

Bottom line, let it go man, don't make up stories of grandeur and mischief under ill intentions and make yourself a victim by your own decisions. Hit the ignore button, let this thread sink to the bottom, and take your self righteous demeanor to the next level.
Poke and lie, gather your people, sell them your story, and be the hero that saves yourself the victim. I'm not interested in you or any response going forward. Good luck sir, I hope you find whatever it is the makes you exist.