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SamuraiDave

SamuraiDave

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Ok, Here is the deal. You know how I have some kuks that need the tangs softend. Well, I didnt hurt'em, but I may have just hurt a cheapo knife I have. I had to try this.

I heated up one of the filaments on my stove, (I live in a 2 room apt, and I dont yet own a torch.) and I put one of these cheapo knives I got from a garage sale to the filanemt untill it too was starting to change colors, of course the blade was wrapped in a soaked rag and duct taped so that it wouldent fall off.

The tang on the knife is like a file...the entire knife is hardened so that it is extremely brittle (That is why I got it real cheap, broken point.)

Lets see if this works when it cools.

Also, Here is my disclaimer if you guys decide to get stupid. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE IF YOU TRY THIS AND BREAK YOUR WIFES STOVE.

Dont be an idiot and follow my instructions.

Thank you. :D
 
Uncle...I think that might light the linolium. That would be bad.

Also, It will only turn sorta kinda red, not all the way red. That means I need a torch. :(

It is cooling...lets see if 'almost red' is good enough.:confused:

(Dont try this at home kiddies)
 
A small tank set of acetylene and oxygen is what you need -- and a torch. It'll cost more than you'll want to pay.
 
I was just about to suggest another trip to Wally World, until I saw Uncle's post. I have a little butane torch that I've used to silver solder guards to blades that I've "re-configured". There is no brand mark on it whatsoever and I've tossed the box, but I believe it was by Bernz O Matic - it uses their butane refills. This isn't the little micro torch - sits on its' own flared base and stands about 7". I've never annealed steel with it, but I've softened cartridge cases for reloading, and it holds enough fuel for a fair burn time. Something else - when I soldered the guards, I wrapped the ricasso with a strip of kid's modeling clay as a heat sink - a welder I know suggested that, to keep the heat away from the blade.
 
I have used the Mapp gas to heat up smaller tangs as well as small knife blades.
And if that doesn't quite get it hot enough I combine it with one of the gas burners on the cookstove.:eek: ;)
Two of the setups on Mapp gas Might do the job. But ya gotta be careful of 'mights' as everyone knows they're bugs on a chickens hind end.:D
 
I anealled a knife last night. I tossed it on the grill and got my girlfriend's hair dryer out. The fire was HOT, it worked pretty well. Now I am on my way to (slowly) hand filing a knife. I will let you all know how it goes.

Matthew
 
I think it is time to start thinking of a in apt. forge....hmmm...;) :p :rolleyes:


Hey...I betcha the school has a acetylene setup somewhere...the art dept. maybe??? hmmm...

Time to go 'network' as they say!

Talk to yall later... I know where those people hang out :cool:
 
The big plus of the oxygen & acetylene is you can do some welding plus all the other stuff -- like burn the apartment house down.
 
I think I will stick to wood work.

Beoram,
The tangs on the Daisen Kuks snaped because they were too hard. After welding they souldent snap, but I am thinking that they should be softened completely to remove all doubt.

I think I need to start leaving well enough alone.
 
Dawi, nephew I have the same problem sometimes and did the same thing you did with the as forged Hanuman blade I got at the same time I got the as forged Chainpuri blade. I snapped that sucker off about 1 inch up from the blade by pounding on it cold with a big
hammer.
It's still not welded, but my other Bro doesn't have his Flute yet either.;)
When you get it welded it wouldn't take the welder a half a minute to heat it up to critical for you and it shouldn't be anymore than a couple of bucks more just to start the aceytelene and oxygen up.
Well worth it IMO, but YMMV.:D
 
Originally posted by SamuraiDave
I think I will stick to wood work.

Beoram,
The tangs on the Daisen Kuks snaped because they were too hard. After welding they souldent snap, but I am thinking that they should be softened completely to remove all doubt.

I think I need to start leaving well enough alone.
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So were you trying to 'anneal' them? If I understand the process, it isn't really softening them so much as it is making them less brittle--is that right, or I am thinking of something else?

B.
 
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