Sub-$300 Katana (2014 edition)

Dynasty Forge, Hanwei/Paul Chen, and Ronin Katana seem to have the best quality overall in the production katana market today. Too much old reviews and information! As far as I am concerned, what katanas were in 2003, 4, 5, 6, is a far cry from what they are today. I need current info/opinions on these folks. Hence me being here. Hanwei vs. DF vs. RK = What are everyones recommendations and opinions? Your input is greatly appreciated! Please chime in!
 
I probably won't order my Ronin until june, I currently have custom stuff being built so I'm tapped, until I sell some of my other stuff I have no use for. I definitely want the Ronin Model 18, I'll let you know if I get something different. I'll give you a full review and pics when I do get it.
Right now I have a Busse battle mistress on it's way and a custom pair of sai being made.
 
I probably won't order my Ronin until june, I currently have custom stuff being built so I'm tapped, until I sell some of my other stuff I have no use for. I definitely want the Ronin Model 18, I'll let you know if I get something different. I'll give you a full review and pics when I do get it.
Right now I have a Busse battle mistress on it's way and a custom pair of sai being made.

Custom, eh? Sounds nice, Big Money! :) I look forward to your review! I will definitely do the same. I plan on ordering one around that time frame, myself. As far as Ronin is concerned, I can't decide yet between the 18 and 21, I like them both best! Will spend some time researching DF, and Hanwei/PC as well.
 
I would also like to know about the dynasty forge katanas myself. It's interesting too, because they offer the traditionally laminated blades at a reasonable offering.
 
I've got a couple Zhiforge blades from my early days. They're okay, but the temper didn't strike me as all that good, and one of them got a chip in the blade. They look nice, but quality isn't on par with Hanwei. I'd stay away, personally.
 
Any owners of Dynasty Forge katana? How about a Hanwei or Paul Chen? Share please! Thank you!

Hanwei makes very good swords for practitioners or study pieces. I recommend them to beginning swordmakers. I have used various models extensively since 1999.

There is a recent price reduction on the Raptor line of swords...you should be able to obtain one within your price range. The fittings will be vastly superior to those of just about any other maker at this price point.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
I've got a couple Zhiforge blades from my early days. They're okay, but the temper didn't strike me as all that good, and one of them got a chip in the blade. They look nice, but quality isn't on par with Hanwei. I'd stay away, personally.

Thanks CrimsonFalcon! I too have decided that the quality may not be there for these guys. I kindof liked the customization options... but that don't mean shit if the blade is shitty quality! Also, they use a manganese steel(Mn65) that I haven't seen advertised before. My research showed that it shares similar properties to 1060, but this uncommon steel kinda turned me off as well. As far as the temper, a lot of their offerings feature a flamboyant fake hamon, which I am not a fan of. I will heed your advice, sir, Thank you very much.
 
Hanwei makes very good swords for practitioners or study pieces. I recommend them to beginning swordmakers. I have used various models extensively since 1999.

There is a recent price reduction on the Raptor line of swords...you should be able to obtain one within your price range. The fittings will be vastly superior to those of just about any other maker at this price point.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson

I am considering Hanwei... The Raptor in particular is difficult to find in stock, much more difficult to find in this price range. I found one on Amazon for $499 in stock. And I have seen as low as $269 on other sites, but alas, none in stock or discontinued. Do you/can you recommend a vendor? As far as the quality of the fittings, I agree with you whole heartedly. I just don't much care for the theme, personally. Any futher advice/recommendation would be greatly appreciated, sir. Thank you!
 
Scotty
My wife actually decided she wanted a katana so she could begin practicing Tameshigiri, so I'll be ordering a Ronin the beginning of next week for her.
 
I have it narrowed down to 5 blades from 3 manufacturers. RONIN KATANA DOJO PRO. I really like these. Since I became interested in katana, my research always brings me back around to these guys. The options are more than most vendors offer. Their fittings are of a higher quality then most in this price range. I like the Dotanuki style blade and feel that it is somewhat unique. The reviews are excellent for the most part, with the negatives being relatively minor. My main concern would be with the blade geometry, but appears to be good for all-around cutting, which is a good thing. CHENESS "Tenchi". There is a "New" "What to Expect" section on their website. I have heard mixed reviews at best about this manufacturer. But I do appreciate the honesty after reading. They claim many improvements over their earlier offerings. Most appealing to me is the 9260 steel. This seems to be amazingly resilient steel. The tsuba is brass, appears to be quality, but the musashi double ring style is just "eh" for me, personally. All other fittings are alloy, which sucks, frankly. CHENESS "Kaze". This katana has some good reviews. Steel tsuba and brass fittings, which is an upgrade from the tenchi. Plus I like the design better over the tenchi. The kaze is differentially hardened, whereas the tenchi is through hardened. Although, cheness claims the kaze is not as "resilient" as the tenchi. HANWEI Practical Elite and HANWEI Practical XL. The reviews are all over the place for these. The XL has wider blade geometry, whereas the elite is narrower. I had originally assumed that the elite would hence be thicker of blade. This is not so. Both models blades are .26" thinkness at the habaki. The manufacturer isn't as upfront with their specs as I would like. I will need to dig a bit deeper for the composition of the tsuba and fittings. I believe the blades are 1566 steel. But as far as they claim, they are just "high carbon." The tsuba is rather plain, but if it is quality, then the looks don't matter SO much.

I will do further stat by stat comparison between these 5, to narrow it down a bit further. But that is where I'm at right now. I prefer quality over aesthetics, but that doesn't mean I don't care at all about aesthetics. So, as far as I know, all of these blades have genuine ray skin, albeit just the panels, not the full wrap. All of them have double mekugi pins, which is good. I would prefer a black same, or at least an option here. I would prefer an option on the tsuba design and fittings. As far as I know, DH vs. TH, in this modern era of bladesmithing, TH for production blades are adequate. DH is purely for cosmetic(hamon)? I don't mind one way or the other if the katana has a hamon. Just as long as it isn't a fake one! I understand that I can customize the tsuba/fittings/saya once I get the katana. But considering the cost to do this, I would prefer to get it right from the get-go. Anyway, that's where I am at right now. More researching/comparing to do. Please let me know what you think so far. Any recommendations or opinions are welcome! Which katana would you prefer? Do you recommend another? Let me know! Thank you all, good sirs.
 
She liked the same one I liked. She wants the Dojo pro 18. So hopefully we'll have it sometime next week and see what it's like. I should be getting my custom sai probably next week too.
In a few months I'd like to get one of the Dynasty Forge's laminated blades. I should be getting my Busse this week too. Too much waiting going on here. I've been selling a lot of my stuff I don't use to get fresh equipment.
 
Dude, that's great! Yours will be the most current RKDP review on the internet(obviously...LOL). I am eagerly awaiting the review! :D After much statistical compilation and comparison, I think Dojo Pro>Practical Elite>Practical XL>Tenchi>Kaze
 
They just have more to offer. And the blade is a better all-around cutter vs. the more specialized kaze or XL
 
do you really think that a 1060 blade can compare to a 9260 blade? I definitely like the design of the dojo pro is better than the Cheness lines, but the steel seems significantly inferior
 
do you really think that a 1060 blade can compare to a 9260 blade? I definitely like the design of the dojo pro is better than the Cheness lines, but the steel seems significantly inferior

I think a properly tempered steel goes a long way. And from what I have gathered, a RK 1060 blade stomps the shit out of a Cheness 1060. As far as Ronin's 1060 vs. Cheness's 9260, I think they are relatively comparable. For example, from a pure toughness and resiliency standpoint, Tenchi>Dojo Pro>Kaze. With DP as a close 2nd and the Kaze far behind. As far as sharpness and hardness of the edge, Kaze>Tenchi>DP. The Kaze is definitely a cutter for softer targets, while the DP and Tenchi are more medium cutters. Keep in mind that I am looking for more of a "total package" katana, and I feel that the DP is the better all-around. Blade, fittings, temper, tsuka, overall performance, overall aesthetics, I like the DP. Also keep in mind that I'm relatively new at this, and this is just my opinion thus far. So, to answer your question, yes, I believe a Ronin Katana 1060 blade does indeed compare to a Cheness 9260. Furthermore, you didn't specify which 9260 blade. Tenchi or Kaze? While they are both 9260, they are also both very different. A kaze will chip/break before a Ronin will. A tenchi, on the other hand, is tougher then the Ronin. Are all other manufacturers 1060 equivalent? Of course not. Ronin seems to take the top spot here. Cheness might have been ahead of the game with their 9260 once upon a time, but that isn't the case anymore. It looks like the market has not only caught up, but surpassed them in many ways.

Once again, keep in mind that I am but a novice. Most of this is regurgitated information. But what is knowledge if not information that we have learned from others? I had initially shunned Cheness because of negative comments and reviews of their products. But I gave them a second and third look even. I believe it was you who convinced me to check into them a bit further, and I thank you for that. I truly feel that you genuinely would like for me to get the best katana for myself, once again, I sincerely thank you sir. You have had a huge impact on my research and decision making process. And ultimately, two of Cheness's offerings made my final top 5.

I would be tickled to death, I am sure, with any of these five katanas. But comparatively speaking, for me personally, I like the Dojo Pro best. I compared 20 or so factors in total. Overall length, blade length, length of tsuka, point of balance, blade thickness @ habaki, blade thickness @ kissaki, blade width @ habaki, blade width @ kissaki, sori, weight w/o saya, steel composition and temper, tsuba composition and design, fitting composition and design, ito composition and color, same composition and color, menuki composition and design, mekugi(does it have 2?), fuller(I wanted none), overall appearance, overall performance, and price. While the DP wasn't #1 in every category, it was near the top, for what I am looking for, in most categories. So, personally, from the information I have gathered, as far as today is concerned, currently the Ronin is at the top of my list.

I know that you own at least one Cheness. What model is it? What were the other katanas that you owned? I believe you had posted several in a different thread. What is your opinion of each? Comparatively, how do they stack up? Rate them for me please! I value your opinion, I really do, and I thank you for your time and effort! :)
 
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