Sudden Pains on neck.

[BlazenGem]

Of course, if you lost your vision because you shut your eyes when the pain hit, that's not so bad.

You'll get used to pain. Eventually you'll realize pain is good. It means you're not dead yet.

yes, thats probably what happened. But they happen really quick that it is hard to remmeber much except it hurt bad.

How do you know it doesnt hurt when you are dead?

 

[cuphead]

watch for the chiropractors that snap necks!

 

[Esav Benyamin]

How do you know it doesnt hurt when you are dead?

If I told you, you wouldn't believe me.

 

[Keith_H]

FYI, there is no such thing as "growing pains." Growing is a normal process and it does not hurt.

you have been out of high school for a while, haven't you ?

 

[Chiro75]

watch for the chiropractors that snap necks!

:jerkit:
Are we really going to go here? Chiropractic is ridiculously safe and effective treatment for this type of problem (assuming it is what it sounds like). The latest peer-reviewed research on this topic showed not a single adverse event reported in 50,000 cervical adjustments given by chiropractors. This statement is akin to saying "avoid medical doctors who deal drugs" or "watch out for those surgeons who butcher people." Very ignorant and completely out of touch with the evidence base of research.

 

[Tracker2]

FYI, there is no such thing as "growing pains." Growing is a normal process and it does not hurt.

When I was a kid, I had growing pains in my knees so bad that I could barely make it to, or get on the school bus. Google it for a description (and be thankful you never got them!).

Sorry to hear about your condition BlazenGem. Get to a doctor and keep your BF buddies posted. Good luck.

 

[Esav Benyamin]

When I was a kid, I had growing pains in my knees so bad that I could barely make it to, or get on the school bus. Google it for a description (and be thankful you never got them!).

Osgood-Schlatter. If I bumped a knee against a desk sitting in class, it would swell like a grapefruit.

 

[Tin Sue]

FYI, there is no such thing as "growing pains." Growing is a normal process and it does not hurt.

Actually, there really are "growing pains" that result from bone growth, especially in the lower extremities, exceeding that of the associated muscles, in rapidly growing young children. As a result, the associated muscles are stretched for a short period of time, resulting in "growing pains." Perhaps you need to look for another chiropractor, or, better yet, an MD!!

 

[Chiro75]

When I was a kid, I had growing pains in my knees so bad that I could barely make it to, or get on the school bus. Google it for a description (and be thankful you never got them!).

That isn't "growing pains." It was probably Osgood-Schlatter disease, which is a condition that is more common in growing adolescents, but that doesn't make it common or normal.

Actually, there really are "growing pains" that result from bone growth, especially in the lower extremities, exceeding that of the associated muscles, in rapidly growing young children. As a result, the associated muscles are stretched for a short period of time, resulting in "growing pains."

This is completely false. The rate of daily growth of a child is nearly imperceptible. No studies have ever shown that growth plates in bones are pain generators, and it is hypothesized that the misnomer "growing pains" is associated with muscle soreness in highly active kids because they are damaging their muscles which leads to changes in muscle mass. Adults have the same problem, it's called going to the gym.

Perhaps you need to look for another chiropractor, or, better yet, an MD!!

I don't think the insults are required, Tin Sue, particularly since you have no idea what you are talking about. Instead of using Google, Yahoo and Wikipedia for your medical information, I suggest you use PubMed and get information that is actually from the peer-reviewed research base.

To reiterate, growing doesn't hurt. To write off neck muscle spasms as "growing pains" is assinine. When kids have muscle pain or other forms of pain, which they do have, it is not because of growth, but rather because of other sources. Kids regularly suffer from muscle pain, joint pain and other common neuromusculoskeletal problems, but that doesn't mean it is "normal" or that it is "just because they're growing."

But, don't believe me. Go to PubMed and look through the research yourself.

 

[RLR]

Thread Hijack on Growing Pains:

Maybe your books say they don't exist, but my experience and those of my kids tell me otherwise.

Cheers, and go see a doctor about your pinched nerve, neck or whatever.

 

[Tin Sue]

I don't think the insults are required, Tin Sue, particularly since you have no idea what you are talking about. Instead of using Google, Yahoo and Wikipedia for your medical information, I suggest you use PubMed and get information that is actually from the peer-reviewed research base.

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Wasn't meant to be an insult, sorry you took it that way; perhaps just the result of different schools of thought/training. And by the way, my information is not coming from the internet, but from our childrens' pediatricians (note the "s" for plural, meaning more than one), which are MD's, and all agree that "growing pains" in children are real and do occur for the exact reason I gave (i.e., bone growth exceeding that of associated muscles). Ever heard of "growth spurts" in children? And without attempting to be insulting, I'll stick with the opinion of a physician every time!

 

[Chiro75]

Maybe your books say they don't exist, but my experience and those of my kids tell me otherwise.

Jeez. Books say they don't exist. Peer reviewed literature and research studies say they don't exist. Clinical experience doesn't exist. I didn't make this up. Do kids suffer from musculoskeletal pains? ABSOLUTELY! I see them in practice EVERY DAY. Are they the result of growth? NO, they ARE NOT. Believe it or not, kids are made out of the same stuff as adults, and they engage in many of the same activities. Therefore they will also get aches and pains. This is not a stretch in logic. But, unequivocally, the idea of "growing pains" is a misnomer. Kids have pain, but it is not from growing. I don't know how to state this any differently. It's from gym class, running hard and playing hard, running into something, etc etc. The act of growing, in a normal kid, does not generate pain, it's as simple as that.

The bottom line of all this nonsense being that when a kid says something hurts and some out of touch doctor says "Oh, don't worry about it, it's probably just growing pains" you know you need to get an opinion that is reality-based. It may not be anything to be concerned about, but don't let people write off kids' complaints of pain as "growing pains" because it doesn't exist. You wouldn't let the same people blame their pain on little tiny trolls that live in their joints and uncorns poking their muscles with their horns, so why would you let them blame it on another fantasy?

And by the way, my information is not coming from the internet, but from our childrens' pediatricians (note the "s" for plural, meaning more than one), which are MD's, and all agree that "growing pains" in children are real and do occur for the exact reason I gave (i.e., bone growth exceeding that of associated muscles).

Believe it or not, studies have shown that medical doctors are, by and large, very slow to adopt new or changed information from the literature base. Again, growing pains are not real. It doesn't hurt to grow. Bone does not grow faster than muscle.

From 3 years of age until puberty, the average child grows at a rate of 2 inches per year, total. So, let's say a 4' tall kid grows 2" in a year, that's a whopping change of 4.17% spread out over the skull, 24 vertebrae, the pelvis, femurs, tibia, talus and calcaneus, plus a few other small bones in the feet. Now let's consider 22 intervertebral disks in the spine, cartilage in all of the spinal joints, cartilage in the hips, knees, ankles, etc. That's a whole lot of tissue with VERY little growth spread out between all of them. VERY little. The long bones are going to grow more than anything, but even then, the rate of growth of bone is very slow. Now, think about stretching a muscle. Muscles stretch like crazy, relative to bones. In other words, in a normal kid, the rate of growth of bones is NOWHERE EVEN NEAR the ability of a muscle to contract and stretch under normal circumstances. Do you really think a percentage of a milimeter change in the length of the femur, for example, is going to make the hamstrings and quads start to ache? Enormous muscles which are designed TO CHANGE LENGTH CONSTANTLY as part of their normal physiology? No.

I'm not trying to insult your medical physicians, but when they say "that's just growing pains" they are talking about 1970's era medicine and old wives' tales. Textbooks, studies and doctors who understand physiology and deal with neuromusculoskeletal pain of people of all ages all day long will resoundingly tell you that growth does not cause pain.

Like I said, "growing pains" is a misnomer based upon the fact that kids are active, running around, crashing into things, and just downright abusive to themselves constantly. They will suffer joint pain and muscle aches just like you would if you did what they do. But that is NOT pain from the normal physiology of growth.

So, if you don't want to believe me, then also ignore studies on the rate change of long bones during children's growth stages, as well as the studies on changes in muscle length during exercise and stretching. Ignore logic, ignore the fact that if growing hurt babies would be wailing like crazy from the day they were born until they were 25 years old, etc etc.

OK, I think I beat that dead horse. I know, I know, what the heck could I POSSIBLY know.

 

[Tin Sue]

Ignore logic, ignore the fact that if growing hurt babies would be wailing like crazy from the day they were born until they were 25 years old, etc etc. :

So after all these years, I finally now know what the problem has been.

 

[Chiro75]

you got it! Just so people know I'm not full of crap (I mean, as a licensed DC in 4 states with all of my national boards exams under my belt and also faculty at one of the oldest chiropractic colleges in the country that should be enough), here is a snip from the Mayo Clinic, which everyone holds in pretty high regard:

 

[mycroftt]

OK, I think I beat that dead horse. I know, I know, what the heck could I POSSIBLY know.

So what are you saying? Maybe it's growing pains or maybe it's not, but it's nothing a shot of penicillin wouldn't cure anyway.